From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DF4F31381F3 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 18:20:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 51417E09FD; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 18:20:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-f182.google.com (mail-lb0-f182.google.com [209.85.217.182]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 07FA9E09AA for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 18:19:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f182.google.com with SMTP id r11so6558278lbv.13 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:19:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=khYvGdzMBbIj9QGdZHcwdIqnDX/gnZsOplf8hqMLkgU=; b=nzJH6DokXc2rqzDG/BDU+8VpFtI5pxlkYyOoDLJysMnzI8LLA4NPnffnpRTtvzehue A0AqmlGMQxPvQgjDrr50nGc8m2dbRVfbh9mj+8IWbOwi6fCgXO453qjX7cDXwf2DLN4A 8yK9MqmGu1j9LGjuvHjO612QF0JPwZm3MGmOrA9YK/SuglBl/8Qwbl+RIdjv4qyA6OfD nLsXv1636G/NAHM7o6NJBotrsPlNwKYMJTHJbwlobIOZZ2SDDwbewzmfnD4rnHDRyEGh f0KbNoZ60xri408tF5FKvNuZ7oDfMN0c8UgtWj06CgQ4DaSOldhkXAJ3XlfCwxZ6E0BM yf7w== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.43.52 with SMTP id t20mr15288490lal.62.1374603597290; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:19:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.199.38 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:19:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87haflgrw5.fsf@nyu.edu> References: <1374476626.10089.0@numa-i.igpm.rwth-aachen.de> <51ED8E92.3020309@hadt.biz> <15636.1374548316@ccs.covici.com> <3622.1374571918@ccs.covici.com> <51EE4FC9.6070407@gmail.com> <87haflgrw5.fsf@nyu.edu> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 13:19:57 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch? From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: ec5c9174-56c0-47d7-a8fe-98f6a2e6f830 X-Archives-Hash: 9ec7fc9aec3d335046c9f20c04494bfd On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:31 AM, wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23 2013, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> I wouldn't stress about it too much, your choice is do you want to use >> Gnome3 or not? And then just use whatever Gnome3 gives as *that* part >> you don't have a choice about. > > Very clearly stated. Thanks. > > Currently I have gnome-base/gnome-3.6.2 with consolekit and no systemd > > Since I wish to continue with Gnome3, I gather that at some point I will > be reversing the above (consolekit out; systemd in). > > I was planning to wait for the devs to publish a conversion guide. As I said to Andr=C3=A1s, you have the wiki: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd > Is there a compelling reason to switch now? Well, as stated earlier, ConsoleKit is basically abandonware. Samuli mentions "contingency plans" for when CK is no longer an option, but all and any of those paths will be playing catching up with systemd. The standards are now being defined by systemd. And, of course, there are those of us who believe that systemd is in fact a much better option than OpenRC (or any other init system). Thanks to the efforts of people like Fabio Erculiani, right now is kinda easy to switch back and forth between systemd and OpenRC. In Sabayon (a Gentoo derivative) you can actually choose at boot time wich init to use. I would say try it now, when it is relatively easy to switch. Regards. -- Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico