From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83EB91380DC for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 01:50:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6D49CE0ADC; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 01:50:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-f54.google.com (mail-la0-f54.google.com [209.85.215.54]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4C567E0AB2 for ; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 01:50:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f54.google.com with SMTP id y1so7046813lam.41 for ; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 17:50:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=cASKWng08o7lewpMK4uK4sE7CP7MmtFlRol9EJgMONg=; b=BYxPC56+HdXlzb0mfawUjtiN7Nudh1/RAyIJ7lrkPAUp3dO0/K1Q49wlvv8hFAQn50 J3FQeQMmfrtqnzskdPKOUpS6aSSICOoZVMGR4ArOne34D4+IW2KV/mnkna5J+C5ruff5 zvHu8kn93lD6LPgWzi5aAhEKNLFY7LsA+BXXsDQepqpciV/RMVLPccP+4P8CYZy9hxJO 99Pr29go9t0C96bjX3HpUxy7Wl0NxYZUdc83oqsAlDcldHRtCqIaDsRiXsr17dlLL+Aj 0knrdwRFZwzFzqfKLoJe4nJkwoNvSmHb675/dmqm/GAH6YyCRmkzf2Xvxb9TGP5MRUhr Ljjg== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.142.230 with SMTP id rz6mr24737708lbb.0.1391565005721; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 17:50:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.170.67 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 17:50:05 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.170.67 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 17:50:05 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20140205013827.GC2412@syscon7.ed.shawcable.net> References: <20140204195807.GG6850@syscon7.ed.shawcable.net> <20140205013827.GC2412@syscon7.ed.shawcable.net> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 19:50:05 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] going from systemd to udev From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e011832b2d9144704f19ef9a6 X-Archives-Salt: 6c9b83f4-94e4-4b9f-a84d-2e5a8bf8e66d X-Archives-Hash: ae1f1cd2831650b9755dad7b2f5936ce --089e011832b2d9144704f19ef9a6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Feb 4, 2014 7:38 PM, "Joseph" wrote: > > On 02/04/14 18:03, Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote: >> >> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Joseph wrote: >>> >>> Is it possible to go from "systemd" to "udev"? >>> >>> I don't like the way systemd works. I have a problem with mounting USB sick >>> (it mounts as root:root) and I can not even change the permission. >>> I am receiving Hylafax fax transmission reports (email) on all incoming >>> faxes and now these emails are empty. >>> It all start happening after switching to systemd :-( >> >> >> If I'm not mistaken, systemd/udev doesn't mount removable devices by >> default, it just notifies the system about new volume and creates >> links under /dev/disk. In GNOME 3 udisks is the one doing the actual >> mounting (AFAIU); with GNOME 2 it was gnome-volume-manager, etc. >> >> What DE do you use? Are you using something like pmount? >> >> Regards. >> -- >> Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s >> Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n >> Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico > > > I don't have "pmount" installed, and I'm not sure what XFCE4 is using. > How to find out? It's using gvfs, the problem is probably that gvfs is trying to use the non-systemd implementation (probably ConsoleKit) on a systemd machine. Re emerge everything with the systemd USE flag and it probably will solve itself. I mentioned pmount only because we didn't know enough; now you told us that you have gvfs, and that you didn't enabled systemd support for it even when you are using systemd. Regards. --089e011832b2d9144704f19ef9a6 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Feb 4, 2014 7:38 PM, "Joseph" <syscon780@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 02/04/14 18:03, Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Joseph <syscon780@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Is it possible to go from "systemd" to "udev&qu= ot;?
>>>
>>> I don't like the way systemd works. =C2=A0I have a problem= with mounting USB sick
>>> (it mounts as root:root) and I can not even change the permiss= ion.
>>> I am receiving Hylafax fax transmission reports (email) on all= incoming
>>> faxes and now these emails are empty.
>>> It all start happening after switching to systemd :-(
>>
>>
>> If I'm not mistaken, systemd/udev doesn't mount removable = devices by
>> default, it just notifies the system about new volume and creates<= br> >> links under /dev/disk. In GNOME 3 udisks is the one doing the actu= al
>> mounting (AFAIU); with GNOME 2 it was gnome-volume-manager, etc. >>
>> What DE do you use? Are you using something like pmount?
>>
>> Regards.
>> --
>> Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s
>> Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n
>> Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico
>
>
> I don't have "pmount" installed, and I'm not sure wh= at XFCE4 is using.
> How to find out? =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0

It's using gvfs, the problem is probably that gvfs is tr= ying to use the non-systemd implementation (probably ConsoleKit) on a syste= md machine. Re emerge everything with the systemd USE flag and it probably = will solve itself.

I mentioned pmount only because we didn't know enough; n= ow you told us that you have gvfs, and that you didn't enabled systemd = support for it even when you are using systemd.

Regards.

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