From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RF0IS-0005My-8O for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 09:12:48 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8713021C150; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 09:12:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BC28821C0DD for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 09:11:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwg14 with SMTP id 14so4025157wwg.10 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 02:11:44 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=kOIst28LjxkZafPI3aDafbriNzOpfJ+44LmuB6uflAQ=; b=oJpNr8/NSzazcstnSSTmw2DbGiKf04kvhPZcJ0zT2WY7aVgCTVR3SARUePz/1ZteRH 4glL4OKejKbzSRMk0QSS/qZdLQdBZTMOuGdTGS4BjOHevJelFEcWE6iJY3b/BWGLkSgz Nsc7lMxKuEJFktMCidr6Axps8AhIhXr8LOJTU= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.150.222 with SMTP id z72mr948998wej.64.1318669903866; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 02:11:43 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.234.130 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 02:11:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <10471513.R8jrG2MAGJ@pc> References: <1474337.CKuYS0Cz6D@pc> <10471513.R8jrG2MAGJ@pc> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 02:11:43 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: ecb6f6617ad7f0fb731e263eb98af1e3 On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:53 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wr= ote: > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 01:42:10 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrot= e: >> > /var/lib usually stores whole >> > databases. The difference is important and relevant." > >> My systems has directories alsa, bluetooth, hp and many more >> there that are not databases at all. >> >> So? >> Which one? That /var is not going into /? > > No. That /var/lib contains databases. Is this so difficult to get? I get it; it's just not relevant. > On my system /var/lib/alsa contains data, that alsa uses to restore mixer= - > levels. Yeah, it does. > So *my* /var/lib is used during boot and *my* /var/lib has to be > mounted by the initramfs. No, it doesn't. What are you talking about? Look at /etc/init.d/alsasound: depend() { need localmount after bootmisc modules isapnp coldplug hotplug } Look at the first need from alsasound depend: it says, that it goes after localmount. If you have /var in NFS (a very weird setup for a desktop machine) maybe it will cause problems: but then it would be fault of OpenRC (or the alsasound init script). If /var is on a different partition, localmount will mount it and *then* alsasound will execute. And it makes sense: the volume restoring doesn't matter until immediately before running gdm and going into the desktop; of course you can mount /var before that. >That's the situation on nearly every gentoo system > using sound Yeah, and as I explained, thanks to need localmount there is no problem. >(systemd might handle this different, I have no idea) Yeah, it does more intelligently: as I said, the volume restoring is only needed just before starting X. > Got it? Your system is not the center of the world. No, but I start to think you don't know *your* system. Check the alsasound init script. The /var directory doesn't need to be on the same partition as /. Period. Regards. --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico