From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S8lfh-00030x-IF for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 04:55:17 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D61A4E089B; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 04:55:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-we0-f181.google.com (mail-we0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4324AE0BB4 for ; Sat, 17 Mar 2012 04:53:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by werm13 with SMTP id m13so5323434wer.40 for ; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 21:53:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7y14nZULBjJnQ2W13NmduXNME22uHW7M6uk0idaDogo=; b=jMPNRqBnIQJrFFaWMOZTsN+b8+6FN2uNi+Fw/qqC3jOcODI49/S4oI6sbdcvegdwbv YeaRirDrRwT2zseNabTuYv7L39gqV+xmmfmb++tLzdqQOthQfi+iXBRywp++NrhAIu8E S09RLr5Q8wF2DU5Y6tL0cgSnh6NgVx6oVauIhyxzeUOBhEakKLZ3pNRC/TAN1FZNBsES 8kiYE2ID9EDl7DubazmifnZBohLxkppgeqmwkiDBYqXMOr2ppLfMZicGQb8cswCVZz6H agZrJV4bIretawqm9mI+sc0iUvJZFmmuX8wqDvt0gWqQWI/nnL2IfNBbg1kazFyr7ZEs +SgQ== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.180.73.143 with SMTP id l15mr3792006wiv.11.1331960039329; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 21:53:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.170.211 with HTTP; Fri, 16 Mar 2012 21:53:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <612535855.844171.1331959045271.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com> References: <709768995.843751.1331957483491.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com> <612535855.844171.1331959045271.JavaMail.open-xchange@email.1and1.com> Date: Fri, 16 Mar 2012 22:53:59 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way! From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 6e4cb9ec-2911-4eee-a0be-72a5f3c7d49d X-Archives-Hash: 48b5b268240819c45a03ed61d6020fc7 On Fri, Mar 16, 2012 at 10:37 PM, Bruce Hill, Jr. wrote: > =C2=A0-- > > > > On March 17, 2012 at 12:19 AM "Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s" > wrote: > >> > http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/separate-usr-is-broken >> > >> > >> > >> > Happy Computer Users (for now), systemd is on your horizon. >> > >> > Houston, we have a problem! >> >> You can always try Walter's et. al. mdev replacement: >> >> http://www.waltdnes.org/mdev/ > > > Sad fact is systemd will soon be required in Gentoo. I don't think so. Not in the near future at least. Of course, *I* don't think that will be a sad fact, but that's another matter :D > Forget the udev/mdev argument ... Oh, I have never cared that much for it ;) > systemd is poorly coded, Many people think that it tries to solve a problem that "doesn't exists", or that it has failures in its design. However, even the more fervent critics agree that Lennart is a really good programmer. You are the first person I read saying that systemd is "poorly coded". In other words: [citation needed] > and we're > getting so much further from a good, reliable DE to compete with the like= s > of Windows 7. Just horse manure DEs in Gentoo now. I would say that we are actually better than them in several ways. Regards. --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico