From: "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2013 09:05:01 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADPrc83DNbnAvk3gHoNW1yDhhNB_e95yd_95wW06-y_+uZLmLA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <520E1C9E.70202@libertytrek.org>
On Fri, Aug 16, 2013 at 7:35 AM, Tanstaafl <tanstaafl@libertytrek.org> wrote:
> On 2013-08-16 8:29 AM, Alessio Ababilov <ilovegnulinux@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> 2013/8/13 Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@gmail.com <mailto:caneko@gmail.com>>
>>
>>
>> I think it's a great experiment, but perhaps too much work for little
>> gain, at least currently.
>>
>> Thank you!
>>
>> The next council meeting will vote if separated /usr without and
>> initramfs is officially supported by Gentoo; I hope this time around
>> finally is officially and unequivocally stated by the council that a
>> separated /usr without an initramfs is *NOT* supported.
>>
>> As I see from
>> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/meeting-logs/20130813.txt, the
>> council has stated that it is not supported anymore.
>
>
> <sigh>
>
> Great. So what does this mean for those of us with older systems with
> separate /usr and don't want initramfs?
It means exactly what the Council voted:
"Since that particular setup may already be subtly broken today
depending on the installed software, Council recommends using an early
boot mount mechanism, e.g. initramfs, to mount /usr if /usr is on a
separate partition."
If you don't want an initramfs, you are on your own. Things will start
to break subtly (probably they *are* broken *now*, you just didn't
noticed), and if you file bugs about it they will be closed as WONTFIX
or INVALID.
If you want your system to be supported, you need an initarmfs, or
anything similar that allows the system to mount /usr really early in
the boot process.
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Early_Userspace_Mounting
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/initramfs-guide.xml
By a quick lecture of the Council session, I believe they are even
open to a closer /usr merge than I thought. When that happens (if it
happens), your system (if you keep upgrading) will not be able to boot
for sure if you don't follow the Council suggestion.
Regards.
--
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
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2013-08-13 9:08 [gentoo-user] Optional /usr merge in Gentoo Alessio Ababilov
2013-08-13 11:38 ` 东方巽雷
2013-08-13 14:05 ` Alessio Ababilov
2013-08-13 15:24 ` pk
2013-08-13 15:44 ` the
2013-08-13 18:08 ` Alessio Ababilov
2013-08-16 4:16 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-08-16 12:29 ` Alessio Ababilov
2013-08-16 12:35 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-16 14:05 ` Canek Peláez Valdés [this message]
2013-08-16 14:35 ` How hard is it to move separate /usr to / partition? - WAS " Tanstaafl
2013-08-16 14:48 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-16 15:04 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-16 15:09 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-16 15:17 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-16 16:41 ` Paul Hartman
2013-08-16 21:30 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-16 13:57 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-17 11:49 ` Dan Johansson
2013-08-17 19:18 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-18 6:40 ` Stroller
2013-08-18 9:16 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-18 19:38 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-25 22:02 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-26 6:10 ` Pandu Poluan
2013-08-26 6:23 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-27 11:36 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-27 11:42 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-27 12:05 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-27 13:03 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-27 13:11 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-27 13:44 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-27 15:55 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-27 16:02 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-28 10:28 ` Pandu Poluan
2013-08-27 19:24 ` joost
2013-08-27 19:50 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-27 20:50 ` Joerg Schilling
2013-08-26 7:06 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-26 8:45 ` Mick
2013-08-26 9:56 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-26 10:17 ` Pandu Poluan
2013-08-26 12:06 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2013-08-26 14:38 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-26 14:36 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-26 14:45 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2013-08-26 13:16 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-26 14:11 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-26 16:36 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-26 17:08 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-26 17:30 ` Joerg Schilling
2013-08-26 21:05 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-26 21:37 ` Joerg Schilling
2013-08-26 21:53 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-26 22:25 ` Joerg Schilling
2013-08-27 6:18 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-27 7:59 ` Joerg Schilling
2013-08-27 8:26 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-27 8:58 ` Joerg Schilling
2013-08-30 23:05 ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2013-08-30 23:08 ` walt
2013-08-17 6:14 ` [gentoo-user] " Daniel Campbell
2013-08-17 8:36 ` the.guard
2013-08-17 19:22 ` [gentoo-user] " Andreas Eder
2013-08-17 19:26 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-17 19:31 ` staticsafe
2013-08-17 19:34 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-18 3:42 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-08-18 8:53 ` Alessio Ababilov
2013-08-18 9:44 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-08-18 14:16 ` pk
2013-08-19 9:21 ` [gentoo-user] " Stroller
2013-08-19 9:27 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 14:03 ` pk
2013-08-13 18:32 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-18 4:33 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2013-08-18 8:40 ` Alessio Ababilov
2013-08-18 19:37 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-18 21:08 ` Mick
2013-08-18 21:54 ` pk
2013-08-18 22:49 ` Dale
2013-08-19 9:31 ` pk
2013-08-19 9:53 ` Dale
2013-08-19 10:04 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 10:50 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-19 13:23 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-19 13:36 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 16:39 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-19 20:54 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-20 14:08 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-20 14:43 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 14:33 ` pk
2013-08-19 21:24 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-20 5:29 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-08-19 10:17 ` Stroller
2013-08-19 10:55 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-19 13:36 ` William Kenworthy
2013-08-19 13:49 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 16:43 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-19 17:13 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-19 17:03 ` Yohan Pereira
2013-08-19 20:27 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 20:00 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-08-20 1:12 ` Dale
2013-08-20 4:00 ` joost
2013-08-20 5:55 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-20 6:54 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-08-20 9:59 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20 13:57 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-20 9:58 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20 13:21 ` Dale
2013-08-19 2:39 ` microcai
2013-08-19 3:42 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-08-19 6:35 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 12:13 ` pk
2013-08-19 13:11 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 20:32 ` joost
2013-08-19 20:51 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 22:33 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20 5:41 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-08-20 5:58 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-20 6:52 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-08-20 10:04 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20 5:38 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-08-20 6:06 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-20 6:58 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-08-19 2:55 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-19 13:17 ` pk
2013-08-19 17:05 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-19 18:55 ` pk
2013-08-19 19:28 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-19 13:26 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-19 14:20 ` Alecks Gates
2013-08-19 14:30 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-19 14:37 ` Alecks Gates
2013-08-19 14:39 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2013-08-19 16:11 ` thegeezer
2013-08-19 22:20 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20 5:44 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-08-20 10:03 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20 12:10 ` J. Roeleveld
2013-08-20 12:22 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20 14:08 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-20 14:17 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20 14:37 ` Dale
2013-08-20 15:00 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20 21:16 ` Dale
2013-08-20 22:23 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-20 14:27 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-19 22:18 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-19 20:40 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-26 15:28 ` Stefan G. Weichinger
2013-08-19 22:11 ` William Kenworthy
2013-08-19 17:29 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-08-19 5:52 ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-08-19 7:53 ` Daniel Campbell
2013-08-20 2:22 ` Mark David Dumlao
2013-08-20 10:51 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-20 12:34 ` J. Roeleveld
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2013-08-27 2:04 [gentoo-user] " Thomas Mueller
2013-08-27 6:10 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-27 7:53 ` Joerg Schilling
2013-08-27 8:37 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-27 9:08 ` Joerg Schilling
2013-08-27 9:26 ` Joerg Schilling
2013-08-27 20:46 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-27 20:36 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-27 21:06 ` Joerg Schilling
2013-08-28 10:58 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-28 11:12 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-30 14:29 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-30 14:34 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-08-28 11:24 ` Joerg Schilling
2013-08-27 7:41 ` Joerg Schilling
2013-08-27 10:33 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-27 12:25 ` Neil Bothwick
2013-08-27 12:37 ` Tanstaafl
2013-08-27 13:56 ` Neil Bothwick
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2013-08-31 12:08 ` Integrated ZFS for Gentoo - WAS " Gregory Shearman
2013-08-31 12:19 ` Joerg Schilling
2013-09-01 0:13 ` Walter Dnes
2013-09-01 0:36 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-09-01 3:55 ` Walter Dnes
2013-09-01 4:31 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2013-09-01 14:30 ` Tanstaafl
2013-09-01 14:47 ` Alan McKinnon
2013-09-03 14:58 ` Douglas J Hunley
2013-09-04 1:20 ` Dale
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