From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1BA51381F3 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 14:28:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 9FDA2E0DA9; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 14:28:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-f49.google.com (mail-la0-f49.google.com [209.85.215.49]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76AA7E0D26 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 14:28:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f49.google.com with SMTP id ev20so1536725lab.8 for ; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 07:28:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=xVgLanfPfGfpjTRmFU91QpI89kAdVn4FCY0tPoTcKk8=; b=RTZSSzpQLWiZleXh9O7UQLOrdNYv4iUSaO8I1yHZ3WeKEYbh0K9ZQ+5cJp7Yl40JbV p+UlXFQPzRcEKtsvcQo8pufxUl7Id2RQIpgJfBSDX7gL+Y0eBP12bOb1gdcjWHHnS2sB aVSTjFwZpQK3ygJVWHOeIObYcUTKTkflk7udVHYgSYF+PHj3HVuKuxqZZz0tcqy7rs32 vimAFkXCB7DNzH+dLJGioJpYaX3vEkB7b+D3gW5d8YkLxJyDfGlBtc3/icr1ps0aMJd/ P1Y+RFL/11g04JEeQfrLFNidBIdDGDCTudbzn65Tq74UOzo8g4J05wbGamzAHL/ehMNW 1Zpg== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.88.20 with SMTP id bc20mr1935640lab.37.1377872906736; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 07:28:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.96.2 with HTTP; Fri, 30 Aug 2013 07:28:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5220A68D.1080407@libertytrek.org> References: <87r4dcbisz.fsf@nyu.edu> <87sixschz7.fsf@nyu.edu> <87wqn4ar3w.fsf@nyu.edu> <52203746.3090203@gmail.com> <522046B3.3060209@gmail.com> <5220A68D.1080407@libertytrek.org> Date: Fri, 30 Aug 2013 09:28:26 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] where did lvm installation guide go? From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: aacff5e4-f620-4bc6-9681-9600880ce544 X-Archives-Hash: 1bc941c6341c99e0abb9a0294f5cb68c On Fri, Aug 30, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Tanstaafl wrot= e: > On 2013-08-30 3:16 AM, Dale wrote: >> >> Example, don't want a init thingy, put / on a regular partition and >> normal file system, just make sure you won't fill it up for a very >> long time. Of course /boot has to be on a regular file system too. > > > Well, apparently this now includes /usr, as from what I gleaned from the > earlier thread, there is no guarantee even eudev will continue to support > separate /usr partition in future (since gentoo council has formally vote= d > to NOT support it without an initramfs)... udev/eudev has nothing to do with it. It's the init systems (as in both systemd and OpenRC) the ones that are pushing/have pushed for dropping support for it. In Gentoo, the move is being championed by William Hubs: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.project/2946 He's the OpenRC maintainer. NOBODY who has actually worked on the problem wants to support a separate /usr without an initramfs, because it makes no sense. So it doesn't matter if you use udev, eudev, mdev or even a static /dev directory; no init system wants to support a separate /usr without an initramfs. And for a good reason: is braindead. Regards. --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico