On Feb 15, 2014 11:02 AM, "Tanstaafl" wrote: > > On 2014-02-15 10:16 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> Not to revive a flame-fest against systemd, but... >> >> I'm sure some or most of you have already heard about this, but I found >> a really decent thread discussing this whole systemd thing. It is only >> really comparing systemd and upstart, as that was the debate going on in >> the debian TC, but it is a great read, and has actually made me rethink >> my blind objections to systemd a bit. > > > One of which was logging: > > "20. Myth: systemd makes it impossible to run syslog. > > Not true, we carefully made sure when we introduced the journal that all data is also passed on to any syslog daemon running. In fact, if something changed, then only that syslog gets more complete data now than it got before, since we now cover early boot stuff as well as STDOUT/STDERR of any system service." > > From: http://0pointer.de/blog/projects/the-biggest-myths.html Also, for those of you who don't follow Linux-related news, Ubuntu will also change to systemd in the future: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1316 And I *heard* that Slackware was also discussing the possibility, but since I don't follow Slackware at all, I don't know for sure. Anyway, distros not using systemd, and that they are not really small and/or niche, seem to be disappearing. The discussion that Tanstaafl posted is interesting since the arguments used by the four TC members are really focused on the technical merits of the proposed init systems. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México