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From: "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)
Date: Sun, 11 Nov 2012 18:24:32 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADPrc833mwB4dBghPhBRA9OA0NGgJV=c56wXJm4hjuha5rbFCA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20121112013321.64a4e1e0@khamul.example.com>

On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 5:33 PM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 21:32:41 +0800
> 微蔡 <microcai@fedoraproject.org> wrote:
>
>> 在 2012年11月11日 星期日 07:22:41,Bruce Hill 写道:
>> > On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 01:49:03PM +0100, Volker Armin Hemmann
>> > wrote:
>> > > hate is a natural reaction if something you don't need and don't
>> > > want is forced upon you. If it is also based on lies, hate is a
>> > > valid reaction. A lot of people don't need nor want pulseaudio or
>> > > systemd. Now it is forced on everybody.
>> > >
>> > > When systemd devs took over udev, one was told that of course,
>> > > one could use udev without [systemd] in the future.
>> > >
>> > > Now they are talking about making udev systemd only.
>>
>> obsolutly nonsense. what they remove , is the ability to build udev
>> seperately. udev can still be used without systemd.
>>
>
> Say Dude,
>
> I have a question (well, two actually)
>
> My name is Alan and I've been subscribed on this list for 7 years.
>
> What's your name, and how long have you been around?
>
> Just trying to establish your place in the pecking order in this here
> meritocracy.

Seniority != meritocracy. And I don't know how much "meritocratic"
this list could be, since it is a users lists. The most "merit" a
member of this list can get is to give technically acurate,
constructive, and polite help for those users asking for it.

IMO, the most active users of this lists usually fail in at least two
of those three, sometimes all of them. Unfortunately, I don't think I
have done better. I suscribed to this lists more than eight years ago;
I stopped asking for help here just a few months later. Which is
easily explained by people like you that believe that "being around"
longer somehow gives more "merit" and that there is a "pecking order".

I was under the impression that, being all of us Gentoo users, we were
equals, although some of us know less about some things and some
others know more about some other things. Hence the smart, mature, and
polite exchange of ideas. I didn't know this was a pissing contest.

This is a technical help list, related to the Gentoo Linux
distribution. Please, don't try to "pull rank" in here; you just look
bad, and at least I would laugh at the futility of it. Even more
considering I've been around longer:

http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user@gentoo.org/msg35368.html

Mmmh. Maybe I've been around even longer than 8 years. But, who the fuck cares?

It's completely relevant.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México


  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-11-12  0:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 101+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-11-09 22:53 [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :) walt
2012-11-09 23:13 ` pk
2012-11-10  0:14   ` Dale
2012-11-10  1:11     ` Keith Dart
2012-11-10  1:42       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-10  2:26         ` Keith Dart
2012-11-12  1:53         ` Keith Dart
2012-11-12  1:57           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  2:58             ` Keith Dart
2012-11-12  3:07               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  3:27                 ` Keith Dart
2012-11-12  4:14                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12 21:40                     ` Keith Dart
2012-11-12 22:11                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12 23:11                         ` Keith Dart
2012-11-12 23:16                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12 23:25                             ` Keith Dart
2012-11-12 23:42                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12 23:53                                 ` Keith Dart
2012-11-13  0:59                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-13  3:03                                     ` Keith Dart
2012-11-12 23:21                         ` Keith Dart
2012-11-10  2:30       ` Dale
2012-11-10  2:46         ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2012-11-10  3:01           ` Dale
2012-11-10  6:54       ` [gentoo-user] " Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-11-10  7:17         ` 微蔡
2012-11-10  7:32           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-11-10  0:24   ` 微蔡
2012-11-10  2:03   ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2012-11-10 19:56     ` pk
2012-11-11  7:33       ` 微蔡
2012-11-11 11:09         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-11-11 12:03           ` 微蔡
2012-11-11 12:31             ` Neil Bothwick
2012-11-11 12:49             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-11-11 13:22               ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-11 13:32                 ` 微蔡
2012-11-11 14:16                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-11-11 23:33                   ` Alan McKinnon
2012-11-12  0:03                     ` Neil Bothwick
2012-11-12  0:20                       ` Dale
2012-11-12  0:23                       ` Alan McKinnon
2012-11-12  0:24                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés [this message]
2012-11-12  0:26                       ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  0:56                       ` Alan McKinnon
2012-11-12  1:11                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  1:06                       ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-12  1:14                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  1:28                           ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-12  1:50                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  2:36                               ` Dale
2012-11-12  3:02                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  3:14                                   ` Dale
2012-11-12  5:16                                   ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-12  5:48                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  5:12                               ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-12  5:47                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  1:57                         ` Alan McKinnon
2012-11-12  2:17                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  8:20                             ` Alan McKinnon
2012-11-12  8:37                               ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  9:36                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-11-12 18:00                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-13 18:26                                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-11-13 18:30                                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-13 21:26                                     ` Cr0k
2012-11-13 21:45                                       ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-13 22:43                                         ` Alan McKinnon
2012-11-13 22:51                                         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-11-13 22:57                                           ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-13 23:08                                             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-11-14  2:26                                               ` Hilco Wijbenga
2012-11-14 21:15                                                 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-11-12 12:09                               ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-12 18:04                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12  5:21                           ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-12  5:47                             ` Dale
2012-11-12  9:37                             ` Neil Bothwick
2012-11-12  9:53                               ` Dale
2012-11-12 11:59                               ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-12 12:28                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-11-12 12:51                                   ` Bruce Hill
2012-11-12 18:08                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12 19:33                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-11-19 19:30                                   ` Tanstaafl
2012-11-12 17:29                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-11-12 18:21                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-12 19:28                           ` Alan McKinnon
2012-11-12 19:47                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-11-11 12:24           ` Jorge Almeida
2012-11-11 13:38             ` pk
2012-11-11 13:59               ` Jorge Almeida
2012-11-11 14:17                 ` 微蔡
2012-11-11 14:36                   ` Pandu Poluan
2012-11-11 12:28         ` pk
2012-11-11 12:52           ` 微蔡
2012-11-11 13:45             ` pk
2012-11-12  1:53           ` Peter Humphrey
2012-11-12  3:14             ` Keith Dart
2012-11-12 23:04 ` Nikos Chantziaras

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