From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RBDNR-00074v-KB for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 22:22:17 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 61DDE21C2F5; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 22:22:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92DE121C0F1 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 22:21:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwg14 with SMTP id 14so1379806wwg.10 for ; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 15:21:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=aiBCF8yJRc7ubZ1KSJBRezQz0atWo9X0UxaWyp9Spbs=; b=cGIdCiqkd1OKg/SYdA+Ey/wpADHIiuB2HYSx+4j3OQP2bdZkebAraGQttV5elr7zvx D1xNI/7hMtMb1D+CYxZGrTAIYZBrBDqnglVy5rsIJ0BoSU2bZ7Nzj5ZB9Z1WTqBL5gpJ htInmZkiQTsxITH3ho1qCJsLYBczICMJim5X0= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.134.1 with SMTP id r1mr4773563wei.109.1317766871769; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 15:21:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.132.80 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 15:21:11 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4E8AD6C4.7070901@gmail.com> <20111004110746.395635e0@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 15:21:11 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it? From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 4bb55674ed84a846f893acba8f818527 On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Grant Edwards w= rote: > On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:24 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >>> On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote: >>> >>>> Then any boot loader will need to call something to start it. >>>> Understand this: any Linux/Unix init system (systemd, SysV, Upstart, >>>> OpenRC) is simply a program... that the Linux kernel itself executes. >>> >>> I know. ??What I don't understand is the statement that grub2 calls (or >>> connects to) the init system. >>> >>>> That's the init=3D command line in the kernel. >>>> >>>> The bootloader calls an operating system. The init system (if at all) >>>> that the OS uses doesn't matter: so if you have an operating system, >>>> any bootloader should be able to boot it (bearing things like being >>>> able to understand the filesystem etc.) >>> >>> I know how bootloaders like LILO and grub-legacy work. ??What I don't >>> understand is the statement that grub2 is somehow aware of the booted >>> OS's init system. >> >> Oh. The configuration file of GRUB2 is autogenerated, and this means >> that the init=3Dsystemd has to be passed to the kernel line. >> >> In that sense, GRUB2 is "aware" of it. > > So to use grub2 you have to replace the normal "init" program that's > started by the kernle as PID#1 with something else? No. Regards. --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico