On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 6:41 PM, lee wrote: > > Neil Bothwick writes: > > > On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 21:49:54 +0100, lee wrote: > > > >> > I wonder if the OP is using systemd and trying to read the journal > >> > files? > >> > >> Nooo, I hate systemd ... > >> > >> What good are log files you can't read? > > > > You can't read syslog-ng log files without some reading software, usually > > a combination of cat, grep and less. systemd does it all with journalctl. > > > > There are good reasons to not use systemd, this isn't one of them. > > To me it is one of the good reasons, and an important one. Plain text > can usually always be read without further ado, be it from rescue > systems you booted or with software available on different operating > systems. It can be also be processed with scripts and sent as email. > You can probably even read it on your cell phone. You can still read > log files that were created 20 years ago when they are plain text. > > Can you do all that with the binary files created by systemd? Yes, you can. > I can't even read them on a working system. If that's true (which I highly doubt, more probably you don't know how to read them), then it's a bug and should be reported and fixed. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México