From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17B421381FB for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 01:27:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BF50B21C110; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 01:27:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ia0-f172.google.com (mail-ia0-f172.google.com [209.85.210.172]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C998821C024 for ; Thu, 27 Dec 2012 01:26:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ia0-f172.google.com with SMTP id z13so7713068iaz.31 for ; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:26:05 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=DQqPWIzh/a99GaxVMlee79N4mZo/CByudQbZVsCRbd0=; b=CXT6tzU10mcrPSdEP9XIZvITpIkoh23VlJmvyymxM2ye4xXVRAIiL7sdNRW6MobW2y m+V9Xjp8FXAlt/nvPFBYm2egKea5+YHxd9ePIwPV6+e3igx+RjfonzJ+OqQUIckDnF7s mfFvigDCHpnjTdylzJE3d2MOYJKBjDFTBOhzmOHbmtBc4bktOvn0M+ES3RWiZOLyvj2+ FwEB/lJ37fGSAU7eMr9meFfHTl3lDrQ0Tk/0+8ZgDSw08hARBNC5qcZcLtL2FYm44nAr mL+ExaNEbeUlHSC/RAPKx9d78oof+nc5C2MZ2sbj3nAwjFIevmJZY387XCFTrWEJ2WJ6 ngMw== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.50.157.130 with SMTP id wm2mr26111702igb.0.1356571564989; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:26:04 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.32.195 with HTTP; Wed, 26 Dec 2012 17:26:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <50CB1942.3020900@gmail.com> <50CB4A3C.1030109@gmail.com> <50CB5406.7040404@gmail.com> <8738z7hgsa.fsf@ist.utl.pt> <20121216171043.71084070@khamul.example.com> <20121217104621.735bf43a@khamul.example.com> <20121218163332.7956f31a@khamul.example.com> <87txrd6pb3.fsf@ist.utl.pt> <20121223182037.1553813f@khamul.example.com> <87bodk7lb6.fsf@ist.utl.pt> <20121224085528.56f535ec@khamul.example.com> <50D85167.9060309@gmail.com> <20121224204817.335033c6@khamul.example.com> <50D957F0.1060406@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2012 19:26:04 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Anyone switched to eudev yet? -> what was wron with SysVInit? From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 74390799-86e5-41f8-b98b-0456aa198eff X-Archives-Hash: 26a58139fbeeb9d893089c9bc1a80400 On Wed, Dec 26, 2012 at 7:14 PM, Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote: [ snip ] > I'm sorry if sounded like scoffing (certainly I don't remember > scoffing anyone, at least consciously). I remember I praised Walt for > doing the work for mdev. Do you remember that? I can dig the archives, > but I'm pretty sure I said that I greatly admired him. Found it: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/254885 """ As I have said before, I admire a lot what Walter et al. are doing, and as I always will say, this is how our community works: people writing the code (as Walter is doing) are the ones that get things done. This is the correct (and only) way to address a problem (perceived or real) with the current status: write the code that does the thing the way you want it. Complaining and crying that you don't like the direction some part of the stack is taking is at best a waste of time, and at worst idiotic. Actually doing something about it (as Walter is doing) is the smart thing to do. """ [ snip ] >> In your eyes, udev has become like the cosmos: everything there is, and = ever >> shall be. > > No, of course no. Hell, I hope something even better will be developed > along the way. And I said at some point (to Greg, in the -dev list) > that *perhaps* something good will come from eudev. I hope you > remember, but (again) I can search the archives. Found this one also: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/81251 """ Seeing some people comparing udev to XFree86 is one of the more bizarre things coming out from this fork, and that's saying. However, I agree with Doug that anyone should code whatever they want to code. Who knows, maybe something interesting would come off from this fork, and it certainly doesn't affect us happy Gentoo+systemd+udev users. """ Regards. --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico