From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RBCKj-0002K2-VD for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 21:15:26 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 02B4B21C198; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 21:15:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ey0-f181.google.com (mail-ey0-f181.google.com [209.85.215.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 906E121C038 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 21:14:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eyg5 with SMTP id 5so1123481eyg.40 for ; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 14:14:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=SAOlXTn5eQhWfVJwd+FNHOk7Y/BZDc5CiDK3433w6W8=; b=M88d0UCVBi/tctfpAgvv3yFd+0ZHGNSY+gEvu0PQU7F3MIpLOje6p4T8q8wlkbs0VF j6JlmerjbRCQxub+SyU5oD3OxgGhCtY8RhSFuVsOOBrMs8p8mw6UifADQAzkUakjq8hc UEM3/5vDOtpIJeB3kVWP3C8hrkQsSk9je6IUQ= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.9.201 with SMTP id 51mr1911816wet.94.1317762864732; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 14:14:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.132.80 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 14:14:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4E8AD6C4.7070901@gmail.com> <20111004110746.395635e0@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 14:14:24 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it? From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 6632f2472fff2fa6fcc49b6f53d6959b On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:02 PM, Grant Edwards w= rote: > On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote: >> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:50 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: >>> On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote: >>> >>>>>> That it's not true. It connects to whatever init system do you have >>>>>> (OpenRC, SysV, systemd, Upstart), >>>>> >>>>> I'm curious: what if you don't have one? ??I use grub-legacy to boot >>>>> stuff other than Unix. >>>> >>>> When I said "it connects", I mean "calls". The same way it calls >>>> whatever thingy Window uses. >>> >>> Right. ??And what about non-windows, non-Unix systems that don't have >>> any thingy to call? >> >> Then you don't have an operating system. > > Yes, I do. Then any boot loader will need to call something to start it. Understand this: any Linux/Unix init system (systemd, SysV, Upstart, OpenRC) is simply a program... that the Linux kernel itself executes. That's the init=3D command line in the kernel. The bootloader calls an operating system. The init system (if at all) that the OS uses doesn't matter: so if you have an operating system, any bootloader should be able to boot it (bearing things like being able to understand the filesystem etc.) Regards. --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico