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From: "Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is up with the libreoffice ebuild?
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 14:18:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CADPrc81v2t+t5MLW0SBxyVLbbuidGepV42NmimHNkm-Mmbp46A@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20110906174848.GD9867@acm.acm>

On Tue, Sep 6, 2011 at 1:48 PM, Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> wrote:
> Hi, Michael.
>
> On Tue, Sep 06, 2011 at 07:03:19PM +0200, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
>> Am Dienstag, 6. September 2011, 16:43:39 schrieb Alan Mackenzie:
>> > Is that right?  How about it being saner to conform to standardised
>> > interfaces, protocols and formats?
>
>> How about IPP?
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Printing_Protocol
>
>> Oh wait... that's what cups is using.
>
> Ah yes, a standard.  So we have the choice between all the IPP
> implementations.  That's cups and, ... err - is there another one?

The point is that it is a standard, not a proprietary protocol. The
proof is that it works on every operating system.

> But why should I have to use an over the top bloated "Internet" protocol?
> I've got one single printer on the end of a USB cable.  I want a simple
> spooler, as simple as possible and not simpler.

Nobody is forcing you to anything: but upstream projects (like
LibreOffice) need to fulfill the needs of all their users... not only
you. Don't force *them* to support every single printing system in the
planet earth; it's Open Source, if it's so important to you, write the
lpr support for LibreOffice.

>> > No, the sane alternative is to use the `lpr' command, possibly augmented
>> > by special arguments for particular spoolers, but always having a
>> > fallback to standard `lpr'.  That way, everybody's happy.  Even me.  ;-)
>
>> How about the lpr command provided by cups?
>> Does it not work for you?
>
> I believe it did work for me for the short time I had cups installed.
> More pertinent is, why won't the lpr command work for LibreOffice?

Because the Open Source community has limited resources. The
LibreOffice devs (or maybe the Gentoo ones) choose to support CUPS and
only CUPS, because it takes care of the most cases, not only yours.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



  reply	other threads:[~2011-09-06 18:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-09-05 21:00 [gentoo-user] What is up with the libreoffice ebuild? Graham Murray
2011-09-05 21:16 ` Sebastian Beßler
2011-09-05 21:34 ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-05 22:47   ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-05 23:07     ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-06  1:51   ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-06  2:03     ` Brennan Shacklett
2011-09-06  9:12     ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-06 10:07       ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-06 11:07         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-06 11:20           ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-07  7:56             ` Joost Roeleveld
2011-09-07  9:09               ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-06 20:27         ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-06 22:24           ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-06 11:25       ` Stroller
2011-09-06 13:20         ` Michael Mol
2011-09-06 15:50         ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-06 16:01           ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2011-09-06 16:17             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-06 16:20             ` Dale
2011-09-06 21:05               ` Grant Edwards
2011-09-06 21:54                 ` Dale
2011-09-06 22:35                   ` Hartmut Figge
2011-09-06 23:34                     ` Dale
2011-09-06 16:59             ` David W Noon
2011-09-06 15:59         ` [gentoo-user] " Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-06 15:27       ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-06  2:19   ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2011-09-06 14:16     ` Dale
2011-09-06 15:57     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-06 16:16       ` Dale
2011-09-06 16:28         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-06 16:28         ` Paul Hartman
2011-09-06 16:45           ` Michael Mol
2011-09-06 19:21             ` Paul Hartman
2011-09-06 16:49           ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-06 17:02             ` Michael Mol
2011-09-06 17:55               ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-06 18:22                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-06 18:57                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-06 19:16                     ` Sebastian Beßler
2011-09-06 19:20                     ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-06 19:20                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-06 20:22                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-06 19:21                     ` Michael Mol
2011-09-06 19:29                     ` James Broadhead
2011-09-06 20:46                     ` Albert W. Hopkins
2011-09-06 18:23                 ` Michael Mol
2011-09-06 18:43                 ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-06 16:54           ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-06 16:43       ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-06 17:03         ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-06 17:48           ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-09-06 18:18             ` Canek Peláez Valdés [this message]
2011-09-06 21:12               ` Grant Edwards
2011-09-06 21:24                 ` Michael Mol
2011-09-06 21:34                   ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-06 21:26                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-09-06 21:35                 ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-06 21:52                   ` Sebastian Beßler
2011-09-06 22:30                     ` Paul Hartman
2011-09-06 22:37                       ` Paul Hartman
2011-09-06 22:48                       ` Big Firefox (Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is up with the libreoffice ebuild?) Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-06 22:39                     ` [gentoo-user] Re: What is up with the libreoffice ebuild? Hartmut Figge
2011-09-06 23:31                       ` Sebastian Beßler
2011-09-06 23:56                         ` Dale
2011-09-07  0:09                           ` Alex Schuster
2011-09-07  0:12                           ` Hartmut Figge
2011-09-06 22:43                     ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-06 22:58                       ` Brennan Shacklett
2011-09-06 22:59                       ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-06 22:53                 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-11 12:55                   ` Peter Humphrey
2011-09-11 13:06                     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-11 13:32                       ` Peter Humphrey
2011-09-11 20:17                       ` Neil Bothwick
2011-09-11 21:27                         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-09-06 18:40             ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-09-06 19:19             ` pk

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