From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B01561381F3 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 18:07:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 842ABE0A82; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 18:07:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-f48.google.com (mail-la0-f48.google.com [209.85.215.48]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED30BE0A6D for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 18:07:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f48.google.com with SMTP id lx15so6365864lab.7 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:07:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=vRVN38RFpTVDlg5VFw+dvmHLSctpUNWBzoPaVmJQCvw=; b=F2pgH0WLj7DaaiDLrjTVGDPjzdOnVhf1CIKwOAF+ezRTP5y7wRTLmT+IPER2LIwdmQ Zd4RJ9vxPDMQ7EkDTzzjr4/qvS911a2JdWTJckpNLxUwD9KyY0jqgtxccz9UqufVSiK4 lPsU2p+NMuBxjuahkV16Wl/JsBFpn7JJoHcC0gtf+Mc+AZfRKpMRN631j5TDYfbzvlRU 1I2qxavj2r6kEuuxthNafMDu8PPFpug1EpGRNog218MFMRDGNBoRiUS/on+ExEo/nUbA 911zMojfoxJUa9dxMRGPC24rR+wTzMyRpSP63tuA2dEeCxwqN/xEXFf44MVY0V1W7pgg e6NA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.92.73 with SMTP id ck9mr14713778lbb.69.1374602840184; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.199.38 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 11:07:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3622.1374571918@ccs.covici.com> References: <1374476626.10089.0@numa-i.igpm.rwth-aachen.de> <51ED8E92.3020309@hadt.biz> <15636.1374548316@ccs.covici.com> <3622.1374571918@ccs.covici.com> Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 13:07:19 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch? From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: e7402b4b-e43d-4cf5-a146-925f575e0894 X-Archives-Hash: eba79e0377c282ac79f133e73b89cbbe On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:31 AM, wrote: > Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote: > >> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:58 PM, wrote: >> [ snip ] >> > I have several things depending on consolekit: >> > >> > sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.5_p20120320-r2 pulled in by: >> > gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.8.3 requires sys-auth/consolekit >> >> Dependency of gnome-control-center: >> >> || ( ( app-admin/openrc-settingsd sys-auth/consolekit ) >> >=3Dsys-apps/systemd-31 ) >> >> > gnome-base/gnome-session-3.8.2.1-r1 requires sys-auth/consolekit >> >> gnome-session: >> >> systemd? ( >=3Dsys-apps/systemd-183 ) >> !systemd? ( sys-auth/consolekit ) >> >> > gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.8.3-r1 requires sys-auth/consolekit >> >> gnome-shell: >> >> || ( sys-auth/consolekit >=3Dsys-apps/systemd-31 ) >> >> > sys-apps/accountsservice-0.6.30 requires sys-auth/consolekit >> >> accountsservice: >> >> systemd? ( >=3Dsys-apps/systemd-186 ) >> !systemd? ( sys-auth/consolekit )" >> >> > sys-auth/pambase-20120417-r2 requires >> >> pambase: >> >> consolekit? ( >=3Dsys-auth/consolekit-0.4.5_p2012[pam] ) >> systemd? ( >=3Dsys-apps/systemd-44-r1[pam] ) >> >> >> > >=3Dsys-auth/consolekit-0.4.5_p2012[pam] >> >> consolekit obviously doesn't depend on itself. >> >> > sys-auth/polkit-0.111 requires sys-auth/consolekit[policykit] >> >> polkit: >> >> pam? ( >> systemd? ( sys-auth/pambase[systemd] ) >> !systemd? ( sys-auth/pambase[consolekit] ) >> ) >> >> In other words, *ALL* of these packages can use systemd instead of >> consolekit (and in the case of pambase, both at the same time). And, >> as Mark already linked[1]: "ConsoleKit is currently not actively >> maintained. The focus has shifted to the built-in seat/user/session >> management of Software/systemd called systemd-loginctl", I would not >> really count on these packages supporting CK in the future. > > So, this implies if I want to keep using gnome then systemd is required, > or use another desktop. That is something to think about. Or you could, you know, try it. If you don't like it, you change DE and get back to OpenRC. Regards. --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico