Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

["Canek Peláez Valdés" <caneko@gmail.com>]

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 4:31 AM,  <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> Canek Peláez Valdés <caneko@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 9:58 PM,  <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
>> [ snip ]
>> > I have several things depending on consolekit:
>> >
>> >   sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.5_p20120320-r2 pulled in by:
>> >     gnome-base/gnome-control-center-3.8.3 requires sys-auth/consolekit
>>
>> Dependency of gnome-control-center:
>>
>>    || ( ( app-admin/openrc-settingsd sys-auth/consolekit )
>> >=sys-apps/systemd-31 )
>>
>> >     gnome-base/gnome-session-3.8.2.1-r1 requires sys-auth/consolekit
>>
>> gnome-session:
>>
>>         systemd? ( >=sys-apps/systemd-183 )
>>         !systemd? ( sys-auth/consolekit )
>>
>> >     gnome-base/gnome-shell-3.8.3-r1 requires sys-auth/consolekit
>>
>> gnome-shell:
>>
>> || ( sys-auth/consolekit >=sys-apps/systemd-31 )
>>
>> >     sys-apps/accountsservice-0.6.30 requires sys-auth/consolekit
>>
>> accountsservice:
>>
>>         systemd? ( >=sys-apps/systemd-186 )
>>         !systemd? ( sys-auth/consolekit )"
>>
>> >     sys-auth/pambase-20120417-r2 requires
>>
>> pambase:
>>
>> consolekit? ( >=sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.5_p2012[pam] )
>> systemd? ( >=sys-apps/systemd-44-r1[pam] )
>>
>>
>> >     >=sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.5_p2012[pam]
>>
>> consolekit obviously doesn't depend on itself.
>>
>> >     sys-auth/polkit-0.111 requires sys-auth/consolekit[policykit]
>>
>> polkit:
>>
>>         pam? (
>>                 systemd? ( sys-auth/pambase[systemd] )
>>                 !systemd? ( sys-auth/pambase[consolekit] )
>>                 )
>>
>> In other words, *ALL* of these packages can use systemd instead of
>> consolekit (and in the case of pambase, both at the same time). And,
>> as Mark already linked[1]: "ConsoleKit is currently not actively
>> maintained. The focus has shifted to the built-in seat/user/session
>> management of Software/systemd called systemd-loginctl", I would not
>> really count on these packages supporting CK in the future.
>
> So, this implies if I want to keep using gnome then systemd is required,
> or use another desktop.  That is something to think about.

Or you could, you know, try it. If you don't like it, you change DE
and get back to OpenRC.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México