From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FBE91381F3 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:06:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E226BE0A5A; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:06:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-f178.google.com (mail-lb0-f178.google.com [209.85.217.178]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A922AE096B for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 18:06:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f178.google.com with SMTP id z5so576692lbh.23 for ; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:06:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=675zPkPU0bHTp7Gn+4NHybSq2QGfEVLqtkg+F6HwT1Y=; b=BWdEs8wKYuWISbzVa7MjWvJppXmnczrFozjS2rMK0WF0wIhJKTYfEzbucPeZgDdbbz Mey5lWIF3yTwMEErBXDBkWkUMTjvelKT3rLIGieWFdowsFIcIIVfasrRWXiMlCeEGjQx IgpAMDgQ3KNeAzZ+XqW667n2fLz/srY/rIb2TGB59JBxcRzajx6Zz3hzgFkqQD5m0l7T aGn9ka4vOyiaYNROI2y9h0mUE93HAubYj0GnEVovuDz9R8ezEHWosrZTdtaxDCxUeN/n jMXYEnTfqTCnG3P1Ut+KkOM/2fqvT/CuJ+YvdQpUvSKMD/FC/qSNA+ul5JKdmBtm107+ Re6A== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.92.73 with SMTP id ck9mr27881556lbb.69.1375207606897; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:06:46 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.96.2 with HTTP; Tue, 30 Jul 2013 11:06:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3017.1375206780@ccs.covici.com> References: <57299332.XkTIeZ2QOq@melforce> <3017.1375206780@ccs.covici.com> Date: Tue, 30 Jul 2013 13:06:46 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 8d61e8c7-a61d-43c3-950e-162628788f28 X-Archives-Hash: 20f1988c44e2802c1559ae332a0dbd89 On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 12:53 PM, wrote: > Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 2:47 AM, Pavel Volkov wrote= : >> > On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Pavel Volkov wr= ote: >> >> >> >> On Sunday 28 July 2013 03:22:02 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote: >> >> > Therefore, as of today, anyone can have a Gentoo machine with only >> >> > systemd, with no OpenRC installed. >> >> >> >> Really? Bug 373219 is still open. >> > >> > >> > Sorry, I missed your explanation at the end about that one. Ok, thanks= for >> > what you've done :) >> >> Mmmh, and I missed this last reply of you. >> >> Anyway, dealing with /etc/init.d/functions.sh is basically trivial. > > But still, we have lots of packages with no systemd units -- shouldn't > they all have a systemd use flag and units to go with it -- basically > anything which has something in /etc/init.d . I was looking for a > sendmail unit and could find nothing, for one example. Yeah, we are not even near 100% coverage. However, one of the many advantages of systemd is that a service unit from a distribution usually works as-is or with minimal changes in any other. For many basic unit files, you can go to https://github.com/vonSchlotzkow/systemd-gentoo-units It has a unit file for postfix, for example. If the one you are looking for is not there, you can search in other distributions. If you download the RPM from http://rpm.pbone.net/index.php3/stat/4/idpl/21317874/dir/fedora_19/com/send= mail-8.14.7-1.fc19.i686.rpm.html, and extract the files with rpm2tarbz2, then you can get the sendmail.service file. It will probably need some changes to work with Gentoo, but it should not be difficult. When is working, you can send your unit to the package maintainer in Gentoo, and at some point it could be included in the package (like the OpenRC init script). That's how we will get 100% coverage, eventually. Regards. --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico