From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RBHzp-0005Cs-6v for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2011 03:18:13 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE52821C069; Wed, 5 Oct 2011 03:18:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com (mail-wy0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17DE921C03A for ; Wed, 5 Oct 2011 03:16:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so1532097wyf.40 for ; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 20:16:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=GjM6b4fxaRgH4wIGoLc6l0REWp2hm/hahkAzLFyT78g=; b=jmvqZ+8voYgMOBOuTsUZg+C3DNb1U3+LpTuu1+FcgbBhz7VmR6eo5k5QiuvJf7LoxQ 2rgN+ZmizcqQ5Re5wKyb4hic5cYndjo0WjhX8I1M2s5263N51IZSg3B6hsr2dnv08QGR 1i4gEbuM2MA97s9izOOuKUB4JbUJiXnqYxviY= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.134.1 with SMTP id r1mr5054561wei.109.1317784614242; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 20:16:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.132.80 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 20:16:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.132.80 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 20:16:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E8BA02E.3090409@gmail.com> References: <4E8AD6C4.7070901@gmail.com> <15152608.IZfVaM36bk@pc> <4E8BA02E.3090409@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 20:16:54 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it? From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d778dad28ab404ae84a30b X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 9d5ec1e9b771c059e2a4fa8165af1374 --0016e6d778dad28ab404ae84a30b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El 04/10/2011 17:09, "Dale" escribi=C3=B3: > > Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote: >> >> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: >> >>> Correct, the *kernel* executes it. >>> >>> Quoted from an earlier mail in this thread: >>> >>> "That it's not true. It connects to whatever init system do you have >>> (OpenRC, SysV, systemd, Upstart)" >>> >>> The kernel executes the initsystem, the initsystem takes care of the rest. >>> Care to explain, why grub2 needs to connect to (or call) the initsystem= ? >> >> It connects via the kernel via init=3D, as always. Maybe not the best >> choice of words, but the important thing is that the statement about >> GRUB2 having its "own init system and it's own set of init scripts" is >> false. I noted the "connection" between the bootloader and the init >> system (via the init=3D command line) to emphasize that GRUB2 has not >> its own init system. Nor init scripts. >> >> Regards. > > > I don't have that on mine. > > title Gentoo > kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-3.0.4-1 root=3D/dev/sda3 > > So I guess my grub is ignorant. lol If there is no init=3D command line argument, /sbin/init is the default. It has been this way from the very beginning; systemd uses /sbin/systemd to be able to be installed in parallel with SysV. Regards. --0016e6d778dad28ab404ae84a30b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

El 04/10/2011 17:09, "Dale" <rdalek1967@gmail.com> escribi=C3=B3:
>
> Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer<grimlog@gmx.de> =C2=A0wrote:
>>
>>> Correct, the *kernel* executes it.
>>>
>>> Quoted from an earlier mail in this thread:
>>>
>>> "That it's not true. It connects to whatever init sys= tem do you have
>>> (OpenRC, SysV, systemd, Upstart)"
>>>
>>> The kernel executes the initsystem, the initsystem takes care = of the rest.
>>> Care to explain, why grub2 needs to connect to (or call) the i= nitsystem?
>>
>> It connects via the kernel via init=3D, as always. Maybe not the b= est
>> choice of words, but the important thing is that the statement abo= ut
>> GRUB2 having its "own init system and it's own set of ini= t scripts" is
>> false. I noted the "connection" between the bootloader a= nd the init
>> system (via the init=3D command line) to emphasize that GRUB2 has = not
>> its own init system. Nor init scripts.
>>
>> Regards.
>
>
> I don't have that on mine.
>
> title Gentoo
> kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-3.0.4-1 root=3D/dev/sda3
>
> So I guess my grub is ignorant. =C2=A0lol

If there is no init=3D command line argument, /sbin/init is the default.= It has been this way from the very beginning; systemd uses /sbin/systemd t= o be able to be installed in parallel with SysV.

Regards.

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