From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-129333-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1RBHzp-0005Cs-6v for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 05 Oct 2011 03:18:13 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE52821C069; Wed, 5 Oct 2011 03:18:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com (mail-wy0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17DE921C03A for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 5 Oct 2011 03:16:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so1532097wyf.40 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 20:16:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=GjM6b4fxaRgH4wIGoLc6l0REWp2hm/hahkAzLFyT78g=; b=jmvqZ+8voYgMOBOuTsUZg+C3DNb1U3+LpTuu1+FcgbBhz7VmR6eo5k5QiuvJf7LoxQ 2rgN+ZmizcqQ5Re5wKyb4hic5cYndjo0WjhX8I1M2s5263N51IZSg3B6hsr2dnv08QGR 1i4gEbuM2MA97s9izOOuKUB4JbUJiXnqYxviY= Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.134.1 with SMTP id r1mr5054561wei.109.1317784614242; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 20:16:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.132.80 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 20:16:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.132.80 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 20:16:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E8BA02E.3090409@gmail.com> References: <4E8AD6C4.7070901@gmail.com> <j6fs96$2pd$1@dough.gmane.org> <CADPrc82Fc5bsupp1F5DA_oVau9=1QfEV1AauadrCT-DVfkCqBQ@mail.gmail.com> <15152608.IZfVaM36bk@pc> <CADPrc80BMzqZH5Em8sk2Lmsfb-fHSE3YJc8-Kj9k8e4wMebnAA@mail.gmail.com> <4E8BA02E.3090409@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 20:16:54 -0700 Message-ID: <CADPrc81LOdKum=Rr1DWyGRKcGD69NQ17Po1fAgzJMO705_oVqQ@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it? From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= <caneko@gmail.com> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016e6d778dad28ab404ae84a30b X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 9d5ec1e9b771c059e2a4fa8165af1374 --0016e6d778dad28ab404ae84a30b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable El 04/10/2011 17:09, "Dale" <rdalek1967@gmail.com> escribi=C3=B3: > > Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote: >> >> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer<grimlog@gmx.de> wrote: >> >>> Correct, the *kernel* executes it. >>> >>> Quoted from an earlier mail in this thread: >>> >>> "That it's not true. It connects to whatever init system do you have >>> (OpenRC, SysV, systemd, Upstart)" >>> >>> The kernel executes the initsystem, the initsystem takes care of the rest. >>> Care to explain, why grub2 needs to connect to (or call) the initsystem= ? >> >> It connects via the kernel via init=3D, as always. Maybe not the best >> choice of words, but the important thing is that the statement about >> GRUB2 having its "own init system and it's own set of init scripts" is >> false. I noted the "connection" between the bootloader and the init >> system (via the init=3D command line) to emphasize that GRUB2 has not >> its own init system. Nor init scripts. >> >> Regards. > > > I don't have that on mine. > > title Gentoo > kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-3.0.4-1 root=3D/dev/sda3 > > So I guess my grub is ignorant. lol If there is no init=3D command line argument, /sbin/init is the default. It has been this way from the very beginning; systemd uses /sbin/systemd to be able to be installed in parallel with SysV. Regards. --0016e6d778dad28ab404ae84a30b Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <p>El 04/10/2011 17:09, "Dale" <<a href=3D"mailto:rdalek1967@g= mail.com">rdalek1967@gmail.com</a>> escribi=C3=B3:<br> ><br> > Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote:<br> >><br> >> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 2:33 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer<<a href= =3D"mailto:grimlog@gmx.de">grimlog@gmx.de</a>> =C2=A0wrote:<br> >><br> >>> Correct, the *kernel* executes it.<br> >>><br> >>> Quoted from an earlier mail in this thread:<br> >>><br> >>> "That it's not true. It connects to whatever init sys= tem do you have<br> >>> (OpenRC, SysV, systemd, Upstart)"<br> >>><br> >>> The kernel executes the initsystem, the initsystem takes care = of the rest.<br> >>> Care to explain, why grub2 needs to connect to (or call) the i= nitsystem?<br> >><br> >> It connects via the kernel via init=3D, as always. Maybe not the b= est<br> >> choice of words, but the important thing is that the statement abo= ut<br> >> GRUB2 having its "own init system and it's own set of ini= t scripts" is<br> >> false. I noted the "connection" between the bootloader a= nd the init<br> >> system (via the init=3D command line) to emphasize that GRUB2 has = not<br> >> its own init system. Nor init scripts.<br> >><br> >> Regards.<br> ><br> ><br> > I don't have that on mine.<br> ><br> > title Gentoo<br> > kernel (hd0,0)/bzImage-3.0.4-1 root=3D/dev/sda3<br> ><br> > So I guess my grub is ignorant. =C2=A0lol</p> <p>If there is no init=3D command line argument, /sbin/init is the default.= It has been this way from the very beginning; systemd uses /sbin/systemd t= o be able to be installed in parallel with SysV.</p> <p>Regards.</p> --0016e6d778dad28ab404ae84a30b--