From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 22C911381F3 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 16:14:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 99201E0E9F; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 16:14:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-la0-f52.google.com (mail-la0-f52.google.com [209.85.215.52]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C8EDE0E33 for ; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 16:14:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-la0-f52.google.com with SMTP id ev20so2939863lab.39 for ; Fri, 06 Sep 2013 09:14:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=FKcK4yT/DhyhjUYZnxj6hvjhpKoAsd9cJXA5BewdPXY=; b=zkX8l3iP6axBET+ETUUoMye9NKDuQzkZFaazufnYBxUD8pzMRPZm862sgyyNsDiT4C +2l5ttw5X1iTwM3kPw963sDpi0eMPMLNTQu9Sr6OP+Vopow7fRo+4VhmPJ5jHbUqLOqz 4IunlXUKtMTdEmfqBKSraAQzU2rEhav92iXpw7Y9vqTarJnC3KmexuMnmI2vwrqWAXW0 m3a/ZG7dujx9uxNavrjjO7kt5aSAeTHwSP9RMiFmJSkDNbf0aTCx2Yd4cX5Y2RyyNoyE zOD6RGaAWuTHI4uW3+hHmScCA100h4Z69LL/vhUBY4kkDDim7WI9WY7djsrj02ct7MTO 2Zmw== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.156.103 with SMTP id wd7mr1233300lbb.48.1378484056632; Fri, 06 Sep 2013 09:14:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.96.2 with HTTP; Fri, 6 Sep 2013 09:14:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5229F9FC.8080307@gmail.com> References: <5229EE4E.7070003@gmail.com> <5229F129.6000307@orlitzky.com> <5229F373.6020206@gmail.com> <5229F590.1050106@orlitzky.com> <5229F9FC.8080307@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 6 Sep 2013 11:14:16 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] No mailer for Gentoo??? From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 3b3d2f49-9978-4944-b0f4-75ccc3312518 X-Archives-Hash: f7f9dc70d62ec41128293f77ef004510 On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Jarry wrote: > On 06-Sep-13 17:32, Michael Orlitzky wrote: >> >> On 09/06/2013 11:23 AM, Jarry wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> It wasn't part of @system before, you just removed the thing that pull= ed >>>> it in. >>> >>> >>> No I did not. mail-mta/ssmtp was part of stage3. And I did not >>> remove now any "thing" that pulled it in. All I did was >>> "emerge --ask --update --deep --newuse world". >>> >>> As a result, python-exec, python-argparse and libxml2 were >>> reinstalled and automake-wrapper, gtk-doc-am, eselect and >>> linux-header updated. Nothing else. >>> >>> After that I did "emerge --depclean" and the above mentioned >>> packages were suddenly removed... >>> >> >> It could be that a package's deps were updated to no longer include >> virtual/mta. But it was never part of @system, you can check for yoursel= f: >> >> >> http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/profiles/base/pa= ckages?view=3Dlog > > > Then something got broken because I have packages installed > that need mailer (i.e. app-admin/monit or sys-fs/mdadm are > configured to send emails). And these packages do not have > "mail" use-flag, because their maintainers apparently expect > standard *nix mailer (/usr/bin/sendmail) exists on the system... > > So now I have "stable" system, updated to the latest level, > where a lot of things suddenly do not work. This should *never* > happen! If it was some package's dep that caused it, it's clear > this change was premature... I think is a bug in the packages. In my system the only package that pulls vitual/mta (and therefore ssmtp) is vixie-cron. Regards. --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico