From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R4zrw-0004AN-Ss for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:44:05 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C4BA621C1F0; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:43:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0144821C0C8 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 18:43:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwg14 with SMTP id 14so5655105wwg.10 for ; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:43:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=uLUnsQDtqBZzJ0w0fRsalI5pI7Q+q2f/sNJsPq2KOPM=; b=sqYD0w7rSzfGYFgBPWRXPffjYUYx6XugNQZMKHXyQyGH/yVlhrqDeqMW0l8KRvwybC qCnFB0mx9zTNH+pwH+6eg47NFC03z9ipCzuQRHX0seP/KIRNi23b+tNN+NcbvC5xVQz7 bQz2pcMBtwmBK69F0f7wO7JUAL8dFADvmQVKc= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.198.12 with SMTP id u12mr779375wen.65.1316284980137; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.38.140 with HTTP; Sat, 17 Sep 2011 11:43:00 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <20110912150248.GB3599@acm.acm> <1728923.nQPHW4UTlG@eve> <1495175.Z7uWjMfsve@eve> Date: Sat, 17 Sep 2011 14:43:00 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 75b382c36c8543817fb7f8f40a3233cd On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote: > On Sat, Sep 17, 2011 at 2:45 AM, Joost Roeleveld wro= te: >> On Friday, September 16, 2011 10:53:47 AM Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s = wrote: >>> On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 5:08 AM, Joost Roeleveld w= rote: >>> > On Thursday, September 15, 2011 05:05:00 PM Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3= =A9s wrote: >>> >> "Last time I checked, neither GNOME nor Emacs demanded that Gentoo >>> >> developers or users had to write a fork/replacement for a core >>> >> component of the system. GNOME and Emacs just need ebuilds and >>> >> adapting their configuration to Gentoo-isms. Testing and bug >>> >> reporting, as usual. The only code needed is some small patches for >>> >> both and around 200 lines of emacslisp for site-gentoo.el." >>> > >>> > Funny that you mention this. There might be something similar brewing >>> > for >>> > users of Gnome where quite a few low-level parts will end up being >>> > mandatory for Gnome: >>> > >>> > "...but I'm increasingly seeing talk on the >>> > gnome side of the "Gnome OS", to include pulse-audio, systemd, >>> > policykit, >>> > udev/u* (thus forcing lvm as well, at least lvm installation tho noth= ing >>> > forces one to use it... yet, since lvm is required for udisks), etc." >>> >>> I'm pretty sure the last part is false. I certainly have udisk >>> installet (it's pulled by gnome-disk-utility), but I don't use LVM. So >>> there. >> >> I don't use Gnome and haven't looked into all this. Udev also doesn't ap= pear >> to have a LVM-useflag. But as I do use LVM, I can't actually check. >> Do you have "sys-fs/lvm2" on your system? >> >> The ebuild does list it as "RDEPEND". > > Yes, I got it installed. I didn't noticed until now. Then again, it > takes 1 minute to install in my puny laptop, and uses 7 Mb of hard > drive. But anyhow, I was mistaken: it is forced by udisks. I think udisks depending on LVM is an error, so I decided I would took this Saturday and see if I was able to write a patch that makes it optional. However, as per free software rules, I first visited the Freedesktop.org bugzilla. Gustavo Barbieri (who I mentioned before) got there first: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D37647 As I said before, Gustavo has contributed a lot to systemd, usually making stuff optional. I'm sure his patch (or a similar version of it) will be accepted. As I keep saying: code talks. Regards. --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico