On Feb 18, 2014 3:05 PM, "Sebastian Beßler" wrote: > > On 16.02.2014 21:56, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Hello List. > > > and all are linked (not compile&link) in such a manner that you can't > > just pick and choose. Oh no, you get the full treatment if you like it > > or not. > > A few weeks ago I wanted to see what systemd is really like so I started > a little test and switched to systemd on my private gentoo desktop > system. I don't care what people say, if possible only my personal > experience matters. > > First I thought that with systemd I have to use all the things shipped > with systemd like journald (which I don't like because I think that a > binary file for syslogs is just broken) so I looked into the config > files of systemd, deactivated journald and configured logging to rsyslog > instead. In the spirit of correctness, I should mention that you don't disable the journal; you can configure it so it doesn't stores its binary logs, but it's still running. And you always can run other legacy logger alongside the journal, and have both things; binary logs for fast retrieval, and text logs if you so desire. > And just like journald many (if not most or even all, I'm still > at the surface of systemd configuration) of the new and ugly tools can > be replaced by the good old tools we like and love. > > Out of experience I can now say that many of the point said against > systemd a just not true. Please everyone, make use of a rainy winter > evening, install a virtual maschine with an systemd distribution and > look into its options, configurations and workings. Just for the sake of > getting rid of all the little wrong statements and rumors. > Then we can concentrate on the real issues and problems of systemd. Regards.