From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R3qVP-0004y0-P8 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:32:04 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A98F721C055; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:31:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com (mail-wy0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7054221C026 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 14:30:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyg36 with SMTP id 36so2018174wyg.40 for ; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:30:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=7pXaX+nv+kXRJLYppMeIbLZSGQbCUyewLqZxMo3OdXI=; b=f1xnmR/oiYJrHuQX+q1zULYoecVgRh5pes2uiuZ9C2MxSPpq1uvgu9zakOrkoRmkrt mTmZcq87JEoAonl8RE9+gw6U3gbo9dussg8Q5PZElETKCMIOH5vQ1AEQrhIWQpRDpVUS eLvyG1XyKEk8ymyUQRW+ycw0w0Zwek84VsG2M= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.181.210 with SMTP id l60mr2295453wem.110.1316010604353; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:30:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.38.140 with HTTP; Wed, 14 Sep 2011 07:30:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1769799.TszvVHMTQM@eve> References: <20110912150248.GB3599@acm.acm> <6554608.b7rUgfQ1py@pc> <1769799.TszvVHMTQM@eve> Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2011 10:30:03 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] udev + /usr From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: b1c3ae375598376cc595bdf3560d0adb On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 1:52 AM, Joost Roeleveld wrote= : > On Tuesday, September 13, 2011 06:33:01 PM Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s = wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 6:10 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer > wrote: >> > If gentoo follows fedora on this mandatory initramfs trail, I'll switc= h >> > to FreeBSD completely. My software works on way more systems than just >> > "Linux". >> That's of course your prerogative. And, as I said before: "Linux >> strives to be much more than Unix, and that means do things >> differently." If you want to do things the same way that it was done >> in the last 20 years, maybe Linux is not the best of choices. > > I read it before, but to be much more then Unix, Linux should be doing th= ings > better. Being different is what led to MS Windows' But that's the thing: we (you and me) don't see the situation the same way. To me, the proposed changes are for the better. >> I myself think the new technologies are worth to change the way we did >> things before. But that's just me. > > The new technologies have great merit. But, the implementation of it isn'= t > thought through. In my humble opinion, what you just said is a little pedantic. You can disagree with the proposed changes, you can argue why you think another approach could be better. But just saying "the implementation of it isn't thought through", is a little insulting to the devs. I think they though about the implementation a lot. >> >> And maybe I shouldn't even mention it, but I don't use OpenRC. I use >> >> systemd. And it works great on Gentoo. >> > >> > Well. Linux only. If I wanted a monoculture, I would use MS-Windows or >> > OSX. >> Relax man. I mention what I use: I'm not forcing you (or anybody else) >> to use it. But I repeat (because I said it before) that I care about >> Linux, and Linux only. > > If you care about Linux, why do you allow it to be broken in such a > fundamental way? Again, to me is not "breaking it". To me is "improving it". Regards. --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico