From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Qvv7g-00027q-0b for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:50:48 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2126D21C151; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:50:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 462C221C151 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 17:49:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf25 with SMTP id 25so366725wwf.10 for ; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:49:31 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=K0rYe3HvAZY6JZWy1L+GK07Yj7q+yzt2OgrSwmCsje0=; b=mMBOsZT4GRMR5d3eYLJ23eBw9NSb3CrsgmIQeA8sXezwO8T0oG0XIDhUYuqTM9raPy q9LeuQX0tQRfSsd5WzYSVJUZUqBTbwcs3t21KmZqhBu11HdHhwaCAh4wZbBrDCMTLfW/ nYbnF5qkaZty3ok2hE7FVrhnwBpIJRO0kHXY4= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.24.30 with SMTP id w30mr932985wew.68.1314121771410; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:49:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.30.193 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Aug 2011 10:49:31 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <0D8B951A-06D1-43B8-BD6D-46E7CB059746@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> References: <4E4C2CC4.6080604@xunil.at> <4E529FF7.2050704@xunil.at> <4E52C56E.3090808@xunil.at> <2269917.TBy71Gn5NP@eve> <0D8B951A-06D1-43B8-BD6D-46E7CB059746@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 13:49:31 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] systemd From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 177bd0d1423a5d1585f85a38fe05a36d On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Stroller wrote: > > On 23 August 2011, at 07:27, Joost Roeleveld wrote: >> ... >>> * found this blog-entry against systemd: >>> >>> http://monolight.cc/2011/05/the-systemd-fallacy/ >>> >>> I agree, it might be more useful on desktops ... so far I am still >>> exploring and learning to get to the point to make a decision where and >>> if to use. >> >> I think it is more useful on desktops and laptops, which get rebooted >> regularly. On a server that tends to run for months without a reboot, a = fast >> init-system is important. >> >> And I don't really see the point of D-BUS on a server either. All the se= rvices >> that need to talk to each other already have working communication paths= . > > Reading that blog entry I found discouraging the idea that dbus might be = required on my servers in the future, if systemd becomes popular with distr= os. I don't see the problem with D-Bus. It's small (the only hard dependency it has is an XML parser), and it provides the Linux/UNIX (de facto) standard interprocess communication system. Regards. --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico