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Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:14:25 -0600
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init
 system in jessie
From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= <caneko@gmail.com>
To: Andrew Savchenko <bircoph@gmail.com>
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On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Andrew Savchenko <bircoph@gmail.com> wrot=
e:
> On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:22:23 -0600 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote:
>> > Yet again, I respect ones right to use whatever one wants, but I ask
>> > to respect mine as well. That's why I propose a separate systemd
>> > profile for those willing to use it.
>>
>> Then write. Just be aware that to write a systemd profile, you need to
>> use systemd.
>
> Or to create a non-systemd profile :)

That's the best response I've read in, like, many years. That's
perfect; I'm 100% behind it. I even volunteer to help (with testing)
to anyone going for this.

You guys create a systemd-sucks-we-dont-want-it profile, and I promise
to give you guys a hand.

Make a profile that "frees" users from using systemd, and I think even
several Gentoo developers will get behind that.

Now we are talking; this has been my whole point the whole time.
Everybody that don't want to use systemd; help this idea, and if there
are enough of you, you'll pulled through.

Regards.
--=20
Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n
Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico