From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-user+bounces-153920-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FF85138BF3 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:14:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B6BAFE0BAA; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:14:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-f180.google.com (mail-lb0-f180.google.com [209.85.217.180]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6CF7EE0AFB for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 18:14:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f180.google.com with SMTP id n15so12375116lbi.39 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:14:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=9GMLOdD+m0NtnqqoydYemVNxeIKPij/bZ3VcLYFThrk=; b=lTU7AQ/4fSRjFadJPND2qNBd/8P96hxR9Wc7pdyILR7FVgKCBM/tKlgA9TtVelPPkA GV6PwrlRDw5op8s3cnZVNk1uju4SzB8sjjNe6ntMM23Meg8crT7Feu9+1JelR4Hjc9Lt pIq1HBpH+5nXvKOPm08WXmIHZ1kNJWBcRBlw8NAX88IXuxNjOxV2cW84W4JGk0p4TYAy 01cDoAUD87tPJCe2SoYxz+WKUbVjOgnNAP7Pt5a4EmIXhLiSvshdXlxtyPUrhWBpWFqS FznpjbX9pGPPLnF7RK4w58FXbscw1QAhBDp6aI3LPImpb7V1bakT16tIdzgUAiXlmS32 D6dg== Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.33.108 with SMTP id q12mr21655322lbi.8.1392747265830; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:14:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.170.67 with HTTP; Tue, 18 Feb 2014 10:14:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20140218220712.9ec8d2529ef49d743b3bc826@gmail.com> References: <52FF84CE.2050301@libertytrek.org> <52FF9D58.3000608@libertytrek.org> <CADPrc8394+oeFRnFuXOKjdG8eaJ+2Oq09VbJCSC_OcGQ_izOEg@mail.gmail.com> <201402152023.10543.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <CADPrc83xjtumpdcarXVUk=-vvnGZKBTB_pJ-hvpCwV38-PkbaA@mail.gmail.com> <5300DD51.5060207@libertytrek.org> <CADPrc82Yh1d-RRJ_HgQE5QbTQUUZg9GySAC9EFFpMWOcndY=Kg@mail.gmail.com> <53010A8E.2050909@googlemail.com> <CADPrc83LyqHhG9DNbvJ2VAPBBVSEgegU-q2n20X8QyvKgqH5mw@mail.gmail.com> <53012691.6040503@googlemail.com> <CADPrc80wxXzxj4ZcMJ6ghh3gVhwNZ_Y==vTR-BbBjnWsgVyYZA@mail.gmail.com> <20140217215255.5766cb026df2f0b8002f8702@gmail.com> <CADPrc81i2FrQoH8rapEuqqRzg816z96Yvxa0tYZzogo75D5RyA@mail.gmail.com> <5302c048.462f0e0a.3d3e.5888@mx.google.com> <CADPrc82dwrYs446DY31PYSsjNtTMiw79OU5qc_sj_zbvrger-g@mail.gmail.com> <20140218210633.d25f4bb88b3891f7c0ed11c6@gmail.com> <CADPrc80yLqfz6HH0KCjVnnfq-6DwA-xjydNw8Sv44Vg18hc0wA@mail.gmail.com> <20140218220712.9ec8d2529ef49d743b3bc826@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2014 12:14:25 -0600 Message-ID: <CADPrc80L3n69rKw0bpG1bfeHDv5-djLjh_Jba5KAzyan4aaizw@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= <caneko@gmail.com> To: Andrew Savchenko <bircoph@gmail.com> Cc: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 3bcde069-7059-47cf-b239-cbb2b4c8d5e0 X-Archives-Hash: 95c5d41dcb6e2aa69ec0de4a45b30d3c On Tue, Feb 18, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Andrew Savchenko <bircoph@gmail.com> wrot= e: > On Tue, 18 Feb 2014 11:22:23 -0600 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote: >> > Yet again, I respect ones right to use whatever one wants, but I ask >> > to respect mine as well. That's why I propose a separate systemd >> > profile for those willing to use it. >> >> Then write. Just be aware that to write a systemd profile, you need to >> use systemd. > > Or to create a non-systemd profile :) That's the best response I've read in, like, many years. That's perfect; I'm 100% behind it. I even volunteer to help (with testing) to anyone going for this. You guys create a systemd-sucks-we-dont-want-it profile, and I promise to give you guys a hand. Make a profile that "frees" users from using systemd, and I think even several Gentoo developers will get behind that. Now we are talking; this has been my whole point the whole time. Everybody that don't want to use systemd; help this idea, and if there are enough of you, you'll pulled through. Regards. --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico