From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD441381F3 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:08:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D91C0E09B6; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:08:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-f179.google.com (mail-lb0-f179.google.com [209.85.217.179]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 758B4E08ED for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 19:08:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f179.google.com with SMTP id w20so9587775lbh.38 for ; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 12:08:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2uUFBavuMyNFr3jA/50h+VpdG4TN9LJxe1PfCkaygv8=; b=EZaGuKKcMyWayODChB3NJYOAGaL6lbs7SfoSB9KWbdyOuGe+RrxvAkecVJhtICoERy N5R0vjcwAQsHSaAml2+ccZp0x3FH4cKI1HenIJbTigKMspQODIySfm3fpk5gdidJgaAL esVqkA6M/ID8cUbFGLoSZziApNid9PnGcxttab1YAdgylygXX8S/oDMC69G+7XmSU7yi NWYT1ce/uJL8hofAkeN7Eabh7N5lAu16hkdrR4FnqxAv9L6NQcYPB3ikY+JsabVtFOsI qwKdez/2Denc25Aag2UdO1X1gNrONXnh6rob6ERGTIN3mA2dDjN6PaAPwYV2x6Ccx/l1 JvkQ== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.1.130 with SMTP id 2mr24122833lbm.76.1373915306720; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 12:08:26 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.199.38 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Jul 2013 12:08:26 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <51E43EDE.3090905@gmail.com> References: <51E43EDE.3090905@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:08:26 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE and NetworkManager From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 71798165-074a-450e-884c-15da0c12828c X-Archives-Hash: 77faad67cdadccc4893cede67143d412 On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Alan McKinnon wr= ote: > On 15/07/2013 18:44, Andr=C3=A1s Cs=C3=A1nyi wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> I would like to get some help regarding networkmanager and KDE. >> >> I have installed the networkmanager package on my machine and I also >> have networkmanagement kde application installed. My problem is that >> as a user I'm not able to abb network connection using network manager >> in kde. There is no way to run this application as root and I'm not >> able to login as root into KDE. Is your user included in the plugdev group, as the networkmanager ebuild recommends? >> At the moment I don't have any network connection on that machine. If >> I want it then I have to remove networkmanager package and let the >> rc-process to handle the networks. >> >> Is there a place where that is described how possible to solve this >> issue? Is there a tutorial about networkmanager where the >> configuration is described or something like this? What right is >> needed or something? I have googled a few hours but I haven't found >> anything. Again, try adding your user to the plugdev group. >> I appreciate your help! > > > unmerge nm and everything associated with it. > Comment out all lines in /etc/conf.d/net > > emerge wicd with the USE flags of your choice. > > All your problems will instantly go away, stay away, and wicd will do > the right thing always for networking. I promise. If the problem is that the user is not in the plugdev group, it will also happen with wicd, which makes this one of the worsts pieces of advice I have seen in this list. Which is a lot to say. > networkmanager is a horribly broken piece of shit that per user reports > never seems to actually work for people. It works for me. In all kind of networks in several continents, with all kind of WEP, WPA, and WPA2 networks, connecting through my cellphone and obviously with ethernet too. Funny you said that Alan, when was the last time you heard about a problem with NM in the list? I count less than 20 mails *mentioning* NM in the list in 2013, and none of them are (IIRC) direct problems with NM. > You should not use software like that. You should do a little more research before saying something like that about a piece of software that just works most of the time. Regards. -- Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico