From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1REzpz-0007VI-2A for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 08:43:23 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3413721C111; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 08:43:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wy0-f181.google.com (mail-wy0-f181.google.com [74.125.82.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C406121C0FD for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 08:42:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wyf19 with SMTP id 19so4514422wyf.40 for ; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 01:42:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=ZanNBSJ+9QTc7d8/mr7/aouBnRKud5Bi4GEEbgE4MdI=; b=vc7OR+VTgR9R+KGUDsqCgJIoudsmvktTM6vC23A/rfjQuFxtr/nNSaMPxk/MLN2l1d 0NG8uOSBFDa7wUpHDW/1p/wlb1HtbCuv1CvD2vM9tkHJlq8IYUEaLPGTea3P76rUSAIL JXKpneT8K/qvdnC7oKUoT+ytu4HLcCBpVWu+Q= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.216.9.201 with SMTP id 51mr3823685wet.94.1318668130937; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 01:42:10 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.216.234.130 with HTTP; Sat, 15 Oct 2011 01:42:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <1474337.CKuYS0Cz6D@pc> References: <1474337.CKuYS0Cz6D@pc> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 01:42:10 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Apologize to everyone for my nonprofessional From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 3ba26d4a24a9d3c0b78b60bf2e0c55b4 On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 1:35 AM, Michael Schreckenbauer wr= ote: > Hi Canek, Hi Michael. > On Saturday, 15. October 2011 00:50:22 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrot= e: >> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s > wrote: >> > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Dale wrote: >> >> Pandu Poluan wrote: >> >> >> >> On Oct 15, 2011 5:49 AM, "Dale" wrote: >> >>> Neil Bothwick wrote: >> >>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011 11:15:24 -0500, Dale wrote: >> >>>>> A'right now. =C2=A0I'm going to start on hal and /usr being on / >> >>>>> again. =C2=A0:-P>>>> >> >>>> Jeez, 43 years on and you're still going on about it... >> >>> >> >>> Dang, I was only a year old when hal came out? =C2=A0That just doubl= ed my >> >>> age. It's closer to what I feel like tho. >> >>> >> >>> I'm still not happy with /usr being required tho. =C2=A0That is stil= l >> >>> standing on a bad nerve. =C2=A0Don't worry tho, I got plenty of thos= e >> >>> bad nerves. =C2=A0:-P>> >> >> Do you know that there's a plan to move /var/run to / also? ;-) >> >> >> >> Rgds, >> >> >> >> >> >> Now someone on here swears up and down that /var isn't going to be >> >> required on /. >> > >> > /var !=3D /var/run >> > /var !=3D /var/lock >> > >> > /var/run is going in /run, but /var/run (by definition) only contains >> > things like PID files and runtime sockets. In the same vein, /var/lock >> > also is going into /run/lock. I have acknowledged this from the very >> > beginning, and I have been pointing out that implying that because >> > those two (really small and bounded) directories of /var are going >> > into /run and /run/lock, it doesn't mean that the whole /var will go >> > into /. That is disinformation. >> >> I finally found the link (got confused by gmane interface): >> >> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/246892 >> >> Quoting myself (from more than one month ago): >> >> "Saying that proposing /run and /lock to be available at boot time >> means that in the future a separated /var partition could be not >> supported is, in my book, disinformation. /var/run and /var/lock (by >> definition) are almost empty (in space). /var/lib usually stores whole >> databases. The difference is important and relevant." > > and you still did not look into /var/lib to see, what is actually in ther= e? > My systems has directories alsa, bluetooth, hp and many more there that a= re > not databases at all. So? > Stop spreading this misinformation, please. Which one? That /var is not going into /? It's not disinformation, it is th true. If not, please be so kind of showin one single developer reference that says so. One. Single. One. Email, blog post, wiki, you choose it. But one single one. Otherwise, stop speculating about an imaginary future, and stop spreading disinformation and FUD. Regards. --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico