From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AA471387D3 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 23:41:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2C19BE093D; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 23:41:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-f174.google.com (mail-ig0-f174.google.com [209.85.213.174]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2567EE08A5 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 23:41:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ig0-f174.google.com with SMTP id h18so2036939igc.13 for ; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 16:41:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=h/M4I5udv9E6pBxi3pPBdgXtBc9Ccn7GDGMMwmd9+9A=; b=Pnyu9leQbyT4iN9LHXfepznXjoWqbZW07AxWGBp2FH2u9gY+9P9lwmIsFKqvtKVCrx LkwfOV0ZlWH9npKabfBeVaTTCYeKwMytnyGES4AOqaOToaZJBLl4jT55/0aykV3awU0m ZY5NYQ388z9jpMY8AR0yjND2Lr95k2dKLSl3hRIdnAQRafBQ8h95l2VRA+Qt5pESykMJ 0W5RLb7OoN2DLU8kBHS+KsHvc8bRD4Yb8Z37vIdqVtPykHlZlRAZz95uw92J8fsK+31K OqW6gDpd0UUC9X9oSFzn7btzLBF2naNiKSo+pkgtJP1nsW2AxZWMlzAp+iihr2vjHLvZ x9Cw== X-Received: by 10.107.128.106 with SMTP id b103mr5321827iod.42.1414366910393; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 16:41:50 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.107.148.19 with HTTP; Sun, 26 Oct 2014 16:41:30 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <544D812E.3070503@googlemail.com> References: <544D4FB6.3030701@googlemail.com> <544D51E6.6030302@alectenharmsel.com> <544D6144.1050305@googlemail.com> <544D812E.3070503@googlemail.com> From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= Date: Sun, 26 Oct 2014 17:41:30 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alternative kernels To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: ddcb2b16-ba2a-4440-a98e-3c17d18cd923 X-Archives-Hash: 54dc53c4dce259f7fbca884499ef19c4 On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 5:18 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > Am 26.10.2014 um 22:16 schrieb Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s: >> On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 3:01 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann >> wrote: >>> Am 26.10.2014 um 21:16 schrieb Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s: >>>> On Sun, Oct 26, 2014 at 1:56 PM, Alec Ten Harmsel >>>> wrote: >>>>> On 10/26/2014 03:47 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: >>>>>> Am 26.10.2014 um 20:09 schrieb Alexander Kapshuk: >>>>>>> I've been using gentoo-sources for a while now. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I remember reading on this list about some users using alternative >>>>>>> kernels on their gentoo systems. My understanding is that amongst s= ome >>>>>>> of the other alternatives, besides the genkernel, which I'm not >>>>>>> interested in using, are vanilla-sources available in the portage >>>>>>> tree, and the sources available on kernel.org. >>>>>>> I'd appreciate being given some pointers on how the folk here maint= ain >>>>>>> their alternative kernels. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>> I let portage update the vanilla-sources and once in a while a build= and >>>>>> install a new kernel. At the moment I am on 3.12.23. Maybe I install >>>>>> 3.12.30 tonight. If I find a good reason to do so. >>>>>> >>>>> What happens when you run `emerge --depclean`? >>>>> >>>>> I always un-keyword the exact version of vanilla-sources that I'm >>>>> running since I update and depclean on a weekly basis. I'm not a huge >>>>> fan of having a bunch of kernels under /usr/src/linux-* but only havi= ng >>>>> a couple of them compiled, but to each his own I guess. >>>> I have sys-kernel/vanilla-sources in package.keywords, unversioned. So >>>> depclean cleans away the older versions, and I keep the latest one. >>>> >>>> I'm on 3.17.1 right now, but the moment 3.17.2 comes out I will switch >>>> to it in all my machines: with kerninst is all of it mostly >>>> automatized. >>>> >>>> And with systemd, rebooting to a new kernel takes just a few seconds ;= ) >>>> >>>> Regards. >>> and without systemd, rebooting to a new kernel takes just a few seconds= too. >> Yeah Volker, whatever you say. You always make me laugh. > > Too bad, laughing seems to impair the rest of your higher functions. Really? That's the best you can do? >>> Keep your stupid propaganda to yourself. Thank you. >> You are free to stop reading me if you want. Me? I want to keep >> reading you, you are hilarious, specially how do you think I will do >> anything you'll say. Funny, funny guy. Keep it up. > you are free to stop posting systemd propaganda wherever you go. It's really funny how you keep thinking that whatever you say matters to anyone but you. Really funny. >>> As long as most time of a boot is spend by the bios, it really does not >>> matter if the init system needs 1.5 seconds until X starts or 2.5 secon= ds. >> Actually, with UEFI fastboot and Gummiboot, the kernel starts to boot >> in just a couple of seconds. But, as with many other things you say, >> is obvious you don't know what you are talking about, so believe >> whatever you want. >> >> I'll just keep laughing at you. >> >> Regards. > > this was a nice thread, but you had to post some systemd propaganda. If > you insist on acting like a spoilt little brat, I treat you like one. I don't care what do you say, how do you think I'm acting or how do you "treat" me. As others have said in others threads (with less kind words), you are kind of a joke for many of us in this list. At most, I would pity you. But it's more entertaining to just laugh at you. > I have an UEFI system and my nice little asus board takes longer to go > to grub, than it takes the kernel to go to init, and circa as long as > init needs to go to kdm. Get a better motherboard. > So.. whatever you post, I regard as worthless > blubbering of a systemd fanboi who can't hold back and has to infest > every place he goes. You are the only one complaining about it my dear. Since a long time, you are the only one complaining. > If you would at least posting something useful. Nope. You don't. First of all, obviously that's not for you to decide. Second, that's *really* something coming from *you*. Keep it up, my dear Volker. You are really good for a few laughs. Regards. --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Profesor de asignatura, Facultad de Ciencias Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico