From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79FD01381F3 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 01:44:22 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F21FEE057F; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 01:44:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ie0-f181.google.com (mail-ie0-f181.google.com [209.85.223.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED6D5E06F4 for ; Sat, 10 Nov 2012 01:42:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ie0-f181.google.com with SMTP id 16so6888539iea.40 for ; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:42:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=tyhG9Qa4KnHf9x/Yhw7eRoyU4zQ9YjG7k6SKSskRRqg=; b=z38i5kysLOYiLDDpujBL2NXzDPVWLgN0TQ4ASQ5bzbUTp7YAEmTylbW67QJr1dWPf5 ntBHklQPjLUrtHHP0iQAD8yCx21ctNj8b8lmPZO7+QjBpgq4HZSrDV48z+BdF7RfZRea GIIguFpOZB0pXcA9jxpFpsOaBt4apHVn2perzPGe+7s2juWVNMlVAeAhICoK+W7uhYuh 0XwlT0myllIE1TNRT4nHBA0IdlsEQTYhZMuKvigipQDe5nbHVRkMf0QCmI05/uvapC3D iIM2IWjWxomVeiC74/qX48vvAPD++Ka79Hhd0oSU3ZC5bdaMWMcl/vubuqDALKcwzoNX hZcw== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.42.37.17 with SMTP id w17mr12540691icd.32.1352511772237; Fri, 09 Nov 2012 17:42:52 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.32.195 with HTTP; Fri, 9 Nov 2012 17:42:52 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20121109171149.1d8a3e18@dartworks.biz> References: <509D8E00.4030208@coolmail.se> <509D9C62.9040909@gmail.com> <20121109171149.1d8a3e18@dartworks.biz> Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2012 19:42:52 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :) From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Cc: rdalek1967@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 316e35d8-cde3-480b-a7f9-c90a00eac1cc X-Archives-Hash: 3aaf176da251b59e39454723b0775df6 On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Keith Dart wrote: > Re > 509D8E00.4030208@coolmail.se509D8E00.4030208@coolmail.sek7k1hn$ce6$1@ger.= gmane.org, > Dale said: >> I don't worry about boot up times much either. Here is why: > > > I was thinking of converting to systemd on my Gentoo laptop. There I do > boot frequently, and could benefit from quicker bootups. As =E5=BE=AE=E8=94=A1 said, fast boots is only one of the many advantages t= hat systemd offers. It's probably the most user-visible, though. > So I'm happy > to some success stories with it, since I've been holding off on taking > that plunge. We have had some of those lately. I believe Jo=C3=A3o Matos just did the switch some weeks ago, using KDE. I did it almost two years ago, around December 2010, using GNOME (then 2, now 3). I haven't heard any insurmountable problem when switching: if you are a regular desktop or simple server user, it probably will work without you needing to do anything special (except using init=3D/usr/bin/systemd in your kernel command line and maybe needing to reemerge a couple of packages with USE=3D"systemd"). If you use something more complicated (RAID, LVM, NFS, that kind of stuff), you probably will need to enable or perhaps change a couple of services, but that's it. If you use a not very common daemon, maybe you will need to write its service file; but it's ridiculous easy (specially when compared to sysvinit scripts). Just a word of advice: if you are a normal laptop user, systemd has replaced most of the functionality of consolekit; so if you boot with systemd, several packages need to have enable the systemd USE flag (and the consolekit one disabled). In particular, pambase and polkit need to set either systemd or consolekit, but cannot set both. Regards. --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico