From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 95189138E66 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 16:37:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 06F4DE0B01; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 16:37:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-f181.google.com (mail-lb0-f181.google.com [209.85.217.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AF65DE0AD9 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 16:36:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f181.google.com with SMTP id c11so819435lbj.12 for ; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 08:36:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=hDiW8riGPc1njMsjnUMaOyEZv745F1bPxmcA4XIHMeY=; b=KnbsSqq/chFFmGKd0YSFrx2Zr+dCbPJEu4My8OlArPNzVIRvPFbCVNtscfn9ESPhG8 Jn55O4XlacYOAmlV8/lwwY4FMgADD63vCA7w67IvAGI8X1eU/2WF3N9hDaFirk25TyZu 1pCJgmHqk4jgvqkusJUGF7+DPgRELRSWLS282YmDXsX+OF3kebxJDQSNVR+hkpjky+It YBTr7KDwLz8sy/FgxLDKOQNpgAnMqKXSvCPz58iYYXotX/xSS6TshNdnuw+BO6CbrEYX cLWzg1gtr62DtHpxiua223cRRPY8FEPpREw0yj0/FhniMNlXKtyRzBa3Dbg6pX7vDeow e/pw== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.153.9.72 with SMTP id dq8mr471443lad.62.1393346217963; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 08:36:57 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.170.67 with HTTP; Tue, 25 Feb 2014 08:36:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <530B0C60.4010605@thegeezer.net> References: <07d8cf1108b4a5d52cdf81cb51db1887.squirrel@192.168.151.11> <2cdf6b0bc8fddc60282b693e360bb2d3.squirrel@192.168.151.11> <530B0C60.4010605@thegeezer.net> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2014 10:36:57 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] technical review of systemd From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: 28993e06-9a48-4878-a483-2ca73a1505ce X-Archives-Hash: 5792a5bbe37e944b37c3d4afedc52286 On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 3:09 AM, thegeezer wrote: [snip] > using openrc if i reboot a system that requires fsck on /mnt/data it > will do an fsck. but not log anything anywhere about the result, which > is why i put this as a pro. Oh, I see; I hadn't understood this. > does systemd have configurable options for '/' so that it can run > readonly rather than dropping to emergency in case of problems? I believe you can run systemd out-of-the-box with / being RO. That's why /run and /run/lock are tmpfs' and they are available basically from the very beginning, and the reason /etc/mtab is a link to /proc/self/mounts. You need /var and some other stuff RW, if you want permanent logs and stuff, though. [snip] > can you please clarify what you mean by absorbing iproute2? I don't use iproute2, so I don't know how big or complex it is; but if it's small and simple, it could just be absorbed in the systemd repo, like hwclock was [1]. *This is only speculation from my part*. I don't know how networkd would evolve in the future; perhaps it will always remain a little tool for trivial configurations only. And even if it evolves to cover every possible configuration on Earth, they will go with a different route from iproute2. [snip] > the only reason that i bring this up is because if you _don't_ use > systemd then /tmp is a folder hanging off / > if you _do_ use systemd it will try to mount it tmpfs > not everyone will realise this which is why i listed it as a 'gotcha' -- > a nuance in working with it but not a major issue. OK, thanks for the clarification. [ snip ] > thanks for the clearing up No prob. Regards. [1] http://cgit.freedesktop.org/systemd/systemd/tree/src/shared/hwclock.c --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico