From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5638138247 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 23:17:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id ED497E0A61; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 23:17:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lb0-f177.google.com (mail-lb0-f177.google.com [209.85.217.177]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AC5DDE09D7 for ; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 23:17:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f177.google.com with SMTP id w7so10062882lbi.22 for ; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 15:17:32 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=Qp/XcCPwxKM7/qOGzugdaxiOuf7t+9SFNtDDodAWB/I=; b=IwvX8TXBW4B9bx3pkmDlhecMSyRxGmLrmhxPIrCgjnA8M+1n0bOTG3U34xq58SALdb EuMVpYgGjBoWRW5+KQLNp6lAqeSrJcVbTDu7Msn8Gaq9ChCdksrdjc4Gkt2RRyALlUrC L540aES4izRgSvdRqdIsI9R9G6sq5uppBSC28hNhvB5R92djETuMaHLESW2WkZi+yvWT 9ADQVvJQiW9ikV7EOCX5BEJcKMiiXkRkO7NlFn7uBxMySUKcNTzL9ML3abA1QKaHjXeu +6rMVwh4cyYHEAfNQvwKlvbWHQZIei23KHzQQa4QFiURh/xt5oqwXbMOMEYpiW3Pub65 J2HA== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.219.133 with SMTP id po5mr53941lac.34.1386285451948; Thu, 05 Dec 2013 15:17:31 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.114.77.10 with HTTP; Thu, 5 Dec 2013 15:17:31 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20131205232646.2f8a11bc@amit.kihnet.sk> References: <20131205213650.01366054@amit.kihnet.sk> <20131205232646.2f8a11bc@amit.kihnet.sk> Date: Thu, 5 Dec 2013 17:17:31 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd as drop-in replacement for udev? From: =?UTF-8?B?Q2FuZWsgUGVsw6FleiBWYWxkw6lz?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: b3291634-2356-4364-a89d-27c87d4de220 X-Archives-Hash: dc8498e635b8057e03e9839d4cfee610 On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 4:26 PM, R=C3=B3bert =C4=8Cer=C5=88ansk=C3=BD wrote: > On Thu, 5 Dec 2013 15:18:54 -0600 > Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote: > >> On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 2:36 PM, R=C3=B3bert =C4=8Cer=C5=88ansk=C3=BD >> wrote: >> > Hello all, >> > >> > I am currently updating my system and Portage wants to replace udev >> > (204) with systemd (208). My question is (hopefully) simple: >> > >> > Can I use systemd as drop-in replacement for udev? In other words, >> > can I pretend that systemd is udev and continue using OpenRC as >> > with udev itself? I would then apply just udev 204 to 208 update >> > instructions (http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Udev/upgrade). >> > >> > I am using WindowMaker and systemd was pulled in by >> > gnome-settings-daemon which in turn was pulled in by gdm. I would >> > like to stick with gdm. >> >> The GNOME stuff that requires systemd will not work under OpenRC from >> 3.10 on, you could get strange fails with gdm and >> gnome-settings-daemon. If it's gdm-3.8, then I think you can use >> systemd as udev replacement together with OpenRC, and I believe some >> people did it successfully. > > Thanks. I have enabled openrc-force use flag found this in > gnome-settings-daemon emerge log, which confirms what you have said: > > "gnome-settings-daemon needs Systemd to be *running* for working > properly. Please follow the this guide to migrate: > http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Systemd > You are enabling 'openrc-force' USE flag to skip systemd requirement, > this can lead to unexpected problems and is not supported neither by > upstream neither by Gnome Gentoo maintainers. If you suffer any problem, > you will need to disable this USE flag system wide and retest before > opening any bug report." > > So the it is clear to me now. > > I will try openrc-force as temporal solution until I'll find a new > display manager and give heart breaking good by to GDM. You could *try* to run systemd and see if you like it. Many of us do. Regards. --=20 Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingenier=C3=ADa de la Computaci=C3=B3n Universidad Nacional Aut=C3=B3noma de M=C3=A9xico