[gentoo-user] cannot properly start gdm

[gentoo-user] cannot properly start gdm

[covici]

Hi.  I am having problems starting gdm using the latest from the gnome
overlay.  Its been going on for a while and started about end of March.
Here is a log file of what goes on and I cannot get orca to even start,
so something is definitely wrong here.


https://covici.com/owncloud/index.php/s/DD4pmEiaD1CSmi9

I hope some kind soul can help, this is getting frustrating.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

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         covici@ccs.covici.com

Re: [gentoo-user] cannot properly start gdm

[Thanasis]

On 06/03/2016 09:14 AM, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> Hi.  I am having problems starting gdm using the latest from the gnome
> overlay.  Its been going on for a while and started about end of March.
> Here is a log file of what goes on and I cannot get orca to even start,
> so something is definitely wrong here.
>
>
> https://covici.com/owncloud/index.php/s/DD4pmEiaD1CSmi9
>
> I hope some kind soul can help, this is getting frustrating.
>
> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>

The problem may be related to nautilus not working.
Try logging in at a console (tty) terminal and running startx
(startx is from the x11-apps/xinit package)

Re: [gentoo-user] cannot properly start gdm

[covici]

Thanasis <thanasis@asyr.hopto.org> wrote:

> On 06/03/2016 09:14 AM, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> > Hi.  I am having problems starting gdm using the latest from the gnome
> > overlay.  Its been going on for a while and started about end of March.
> > Here is a log file of what goes on and I cannot get orca to even start,
> > so something is definitely wrong here.
> >
> >
> > https://covici.com/owncloud/index.php/s/DD4pmEiaD1CSmi9
> >
> > I hope some kind soul can help, this is getting frustrating.
> >
> > Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> >
> 
> The problem may be related to nautilus not working.
> Try logging in at a console (tty) terminal and running startx
> (startx is from the x11-apps/xinit package)
> 

Thanks for your reply, but I never use nautilus, I can't even log in to
the system.


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Re: [gentoo-user] cannot properly start gdm

[Thanasis]

On 06/03/2016 10:19 AM, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> Thanasis <thanasis@asyr.hopto.org> wrote:
>
>> On 06/03/2016 09:14 AM, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
>>> Hi.  I am having problems starting gdm using the latest from the gnome
>>> overlay.  Its been going on for a while and started about end of March.
>>> Here is a log file of what goes on and I cannot get orca to even start,
>>> so something is definitely wrong here.
>>>
>>>
>>> https://covici.com/owncloud/index.php/s/DD4pmEiaD1CSmi9
>>>
>>> I hope some kind soul can help, this is getting frustrating.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
>>>
>>
>> The problem may be related to nautilus not working.
>> Try logging in at a console (tty) terminal and running startx
>> (startx is from the x11-apps/xinit package)
>>
>
> Thanks for your reply, but I never use nautilus, I can't even log in to
> the system.
>
>
nautilus is part of gnome (if you use it ...)
Do you mean, you cannot login, not even in terminal (without X)?

Re: [gentoo-user] cannot properly start gdm

[covici]

Thanasis <thanasis@asyr.hopto.org> wrote:

> On 06/03/2016 10:19 AM, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> > Thanasis <thanasis@asyr.hopto.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On 06/03/2016 09:14 AM, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> >>> Hi.  I am having problems starting gdm using the latest from the gnome
> >>> overlay.  Its been going on for a while and started about end of March.
> >>> Here is a log file of what goes on and I cannot get orca to even start,
> >>> so something is definitely wrong here.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> https://covici.com/owncloud/index.php/s/DD4pmEiaD1CSmi9
> >>>
> >>> I hope some kind soul can help, this is getting frustrating.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks in advance for any suggestions.
> >>>
> >>
> >> The problem may be related to nautilus not working.
> >> Try logging in at a console (tty) terminal and running startx
> >> (startx is from the x11-apps/xinit package)
> >>
> >
> > Thanks for your reply, but I never use nautilus, I can't even log in to
> > the system.
> >
> >
> nautilus is part of gnome (if you use it ...)
> Do you mean, you cannot login, not even in terminal (without X)?

I mean I cannot log into a user with gdm, I don't even get the gdm login
screen.  I can login normally to a textconsole.

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Re: [gentoo-user] cannot properly start gdm

[Thanasis]

On 06/03/2016 12:25 PM, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
  I can login normally to a textconsole.
>
Try to login to a textconsole, and run:

startx

Re: [gentoo-user] cannot properly start gdm

[covici]

Thanasis <thanasis@asyr.hopto.org> wrote:

> On 06/03/2016 12:25 PM, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
>  I can login normally to a textconsole.
> >
> Try to login to a textconsole, and run:
> 
> startx
> 

No joy there, either.  The server seems to be there, but not much else.
session-binary starts, but gnome-shell is not there.

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you spend it?

         John Covici
         covici@ccs.covici.com

Re: [gentoo-user] cannot properly start gdm

[David Abbott]

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 9:46 AM,  <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> Thanasis <thanasis@asyr.hopto.org> wrote:
>
>> On 06/03/2016 12:25 PM, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
>>  I can login normally to a textconsole.
>> >
>> Try to login to a textconsole, and run:
>>
>> startx
>>
>
> No joy there, either.  The server seems to be there, but not much else.
> session-binary starts, but gnome-shell is not there.
>
> --
> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> How do
> you spend it?
>
>          John Covici
>          covici@ccs.covici.com
>

Post your ~/.xinitrc and post the log created when you use startx please.

-- David

Re: [gentoo-user] cannot properly start gdm

[J. García]

El vie, 03-06-2016 a las 05:25 -0400, covici@ccs.covici.com escribió:
> 
> > nautilus is part of gnome (if you use it ...)
> > Do you mean, you cannot login, not even in terminal (without X)?
> I mean I cannot log into a user with gdm, I don't even get the gdm
> login
> screen.  I can login normally to a textconsole.
> 
Have you tried enable debug output from gdm to get more info?, and
disable wayland for the login screen?, I had a similar problem while
back, and I changed the configuration to:

/etc/gdm/custom.conf:
...
[daemon]
WaylandEnable=false
....
[debug]
Enable=true

Re: [gentoo-user] cannot properly start gdm

[covici]

David Abbott <dabbott@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 9:46 AM,  <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> > Thanasis <thanasis@asyr.hopto.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On 06/03/2016 12:25 PM, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> >>  I can login normally to a textconsole.
> >> >
> >> Try to login to a textconsole, and run:
> >>
> >> startx
> >>
> >
> > No joy there, either.  The server seems to be there, but not much else.
> > session-binary starts, but gnome-shell is not there.
> >
> > --
> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> > How do
> > you spend it?
> >
> >          John Covici
> >          covici@ccs.covici.com
> >
> 
> Post your ~/.xinitrc and post the log created when you use startx please.
> 
> -- David
> 

The original log when I try to start gdm is here

https://covici.com/owncloud/index.php/s/DD4pmEiaD1CSmi9

If you need what I get from the startx, let me know.


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How do
you spend it?

         John Covici
         covici@ccs.covici.com

Re: [gentoo-user] cannot properly start gdm

[David Abbott]

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 10:25 AM,  <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> David Abbott <dabbott@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 9:46 AM,  <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
>> > Thanasis <thanasis@asyr.hopto.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On 06/03/2016 12:25 PM, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
>> >>  I can login normally to a textconsole.
>> >> >
>> >> Try to login to a textconsole, and run:
>> >>
>> >> startx
>> >>
>> >
>> > No joy there, either.  The server seems to be there, but not much else.
>> > session-binary starts, but gnome-shell is not there.
>> >
>> > --
>> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
>> > How do
>> > you spend it?
>> >
>> >          John Covici
>> >          covici@ccs.covici.com
>> >
>>
>> Post your ~/.xinitrc and post the log created when you use startx please.
>>
>> -- David
>>
>
> The original log when I try to start gdm is here
>
> https://covici.com/owncloud/index.php/s/DD4pmEiaD1CSmi9
>
> If you need what I get from the startx, let me know.
>
I thought I did?
>
> --
> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> How do
> you spend it?
>
>          John Covici
>          covici@ccs.covici.com
>

Re: [gentoo-user] cannot properly start gdm

[covici]

David Abbott <dabbott@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 10:25 AM,  <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> > David Abbott <dabbott@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 9:46 AM,  <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> >> > Thanasis <thanasis@asyr.hopto.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 06/03/2016 12:25 PM, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> >> >>  I can login normally to a textconsole.
> >> >> >
> >> >> Try to login to a textconsole, and run:
> >> >>
> >> >> startx
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > No joy there, either.  The server seems to be there, but not much else.
> >> > session-binary starts, but gnome-shell is not there.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> >> > How do
> >> > you spend it?
> >> >
> >> >          John Covici
> >> >          covici@ccs.covici.com
> >> >
> >>
> >> Post your ~/.xinitrc and post the log created when you use startx please.
> >>
> >> -- David
> >>
> >
> > The original log when I try to start gdm is here
> >
> > https://covici.com/owncloud/index.php/s/DD4pmEiaD1CSmi9
> >
> > If you need what I get from the startx, let me know.
> >
> I thought I did?

But what do you make of the log I sent?


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Re: [gentoo-user] cannot properly start gdm

[covici]

David Abbott <dabbott@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 10:25 AM,  <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> > David Abbott <dabbott@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 9:46 AM,  <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> >> > Thanasis <thanasis@asyr.hopto.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On 06/03/2016 12:25 PM, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> >> >>  I can login normally to a textconsole.
> >> >> >
> >> >> Try to login to a textconsole, and run:
> >> >>
> >> >> startx
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > No joy there, either.  The server seems to be there, but not much else.
> >> > session-binary starts, but gnome-shell is not there.
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> >> > How do
> >> > you spend it?
> >> >
> >> >          John Covici
> >> >          covici@ccs.covici.com
> >> >
> >>
> >> Post your ~/.xinitrc and post the log created when you use startx please.
> >>
> >> -- David
> >>
> >
> > The original log when I try to start gdm is here
> >
> > https://covici.com/owncloud/index.php/s/DD4pmEiaD1CSmi9
> >
> > If you need what I get from the startx, let me know.
> >
> I thought I did?

OK, here it is
https://covici.com/owncloud/index.php/s/MnE7NzEz1nfqUlP

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you spend it?

         John Covici
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Re: [gentoo-user] cannot properly start gdm

[David Abbott]

On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 12:19 PM,  <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> David Abbott <dabbott@gentoo.org> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 10:25 AM,  <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
>> > David Abbott <dabbott@gentoo.org> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 9:46 AM,  <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
>> >> > Thanasis <thanasis@asyr.hopto.org> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> On 06/03/2016 12:25 PM, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
>> >> >>  I can login normally to a textconsole.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> Try to login to a textconsole, and run:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> startx
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> > No joy there, either.  The server seems to be there, but not much else.
>> >> > session-binary starts, but gnome-shell is not there.
>> >> >
>> >> > --
>> >> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
>> >> > How do
>> >> > you spend it?
>> >> >
>> >> >          John Covici
>> >> >          covici@ccs.covici.com
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Post your ~/.xinitrc and post the log created when you use startx please.
>> >>
>> >> -- David
>> >>
>> >
>> > The original log when I try to start gdm is here
>> >
>> > https://covici.com/owncloud/index.php/s/DD4pmEiaD1CSmi9
>> >
>> > If you need what I get from the startx, let me know.
>> >
>> I thought I did?
>
> OK, here it is
> https://covici.com/owncloud/index.php/s/MnE7NzEz1nfqUlP
>
> --
> Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> How do
> you spend it?
>
>          John Covici
>          covici@ccs.covici.com
>

John I still don't see your ~/.xinitrc when you use startx. Post the
contents please. Is your video card a Nvidia Optimus?
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-996474-start-0.html
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/NVIDIA/Optimus


-- David

Re: [gentoo-user] cannot properly start gdm

[covici]

David Abbott <dabbott@gentoo.org> wrote:

> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 12:19 PM,  <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> > David Abbott <dabbott@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 10:25 AM,  <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> >> > David Abbott <dabbott@gentoo.org> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Fri, Jun 3, 2016 at 9:46 AM,  <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:
> >> >> > Thanasis <thanasis@asyr.hopto.org> wrote:
> >> >> >
> >> >> >> On 06/03/2016 12:25 PM, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:
> >> >> >>  I can login normally to a textconsole.
> >> >> >> >
> >> >> >> Try to login to a textconsole, and run:
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >> startx
> >> >> >>
> >> >> >
> >> >> > No joy there, either.  The server seems to be there, but not much else.
> >> >> > session-binary starts, but gnome-shell is not there.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> >> >> > How do
> >> >> > you spend it?
> >> >> >
> >> >> >          John Covici
> >> >> >          covici@ccs.covici.com
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Post your ~/.xinitrc and post the log created when you use startx please.
> >> >>
> >> >> -- David
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > The original log when I try to start gdm is here
> >> >
> >> > https://covici.com/owncloud/index.php/s/DD4pmEiaD1CSmi9
> >> >
> >> > If you need what I get from the startx, let me know.
> >> >
> >> I thought I did?
> >
> > OK, here it is
> > https://covici.com/owncloud/index.php/s/MnE7NzEz1nfqUlP
> >
> > --
> > Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
> > How do
> > you spend it?
> >
> >          John Covici
> >          covici@ccs.covici.com
> >
> 
> John I still don't see your ~/.xinitrc when you use startx. Post the
> contents please. Is your video card a Nvidia Optimus?
> https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-996474-start-0.html
> https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/NVIDIA/Optimus
No, its not optimus, its a Gforce 650.

I don't have the file you are looking for.  My .Xsession-errors is quite
old.

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How do
you spend it?

         John Covici
         covici@ccs.covici.com

Re: [gentoo-user] cannot properly start gdm

[Thanasis]

On 06/03/2016 09:16 PM, covici@ccs.covici.com wrote:

>
> I don't have the file you are looking for.  My .Xsession-errors is quite
> old.
>

Are you using a specific /etc/X11/xorg.conf file?
If so, try starting X without one.

Rename /etc/X11/xorg.conf to something else...
(like /etc/X11/xorg.conf.bak) and try
startx
...then post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log

Re: [gentoo-user] cannot properly start gdm

[J. García]

El vie, 03-06-2016 a las 14:16 -0400, covici@ccs.covici.com escribió:
> David Abbott <dabbott@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > 
> > John I still don't see your ~/.xinitrc when you use startx. 
> > ...
> I don't have the file you are looking for.  My .Xsession-errors is
> quite
> old.
> 
~/.xinitrc you should have written if you are starting X with startx.
It's contents should be something like this if you want to start gnome:
---
export XDG_MENU_PREFIX=gnome-
exec dbus-lanuch --exit-with-session \ 
	gnome-session --session=${SESSION_NAME} 
---
Where ${SESSION_NAME} references to one of the files in
/usr/share/gnome-session/sessions, or $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/gnome-
session/sessions , e.g. '--session=gnome', there's more info about this
in the gnome-session(1), and startx(1) manuals.

I use it as a fall-back way to start an X session with awesome WM. when
gnome isn't working(which hasn't happened in a long time), or I just
don't want to use much RAM, because I need more than 2 VMS.

Re: [gentoo-user] cannot properly start gdm

[J. García]

El vie, 03-06-2016 a las 16:23 -0600, J. García escribió:
>
> ~/.xinitrc you should have written ...
Just to correct:
* ~/.xinitrc is a file you should have written

Re: [gentoo-user] cannot properly start gdm

[covici]

"J." García <jyo.garcia@gmail.com> wrote:

> El vie, 03-06-2016 a las 14:16 -0400, covici@ccs.covici.com escribió:
> > David Abbott <dabbott@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > > John I still don't see your ~/.xinitrc when you use startx. 
> > > ...
> > I don't have the file you are looking for.  My .Xsession-errors is
> > quite
> > old.
> > 
> ~/.xinitrc you should have written if you are starting X with startx.
> It's contents should be something like this if you want to start gnome:
> ---
> export XDG_MENU_PREFIX=gnome-
> exec dbus-lanuch --exit-with-session \ 
> 	gnome-session --session=${SESSION_NAME} 
> ---
> Where ${SESSION_NAME} references to one of the files in
> /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions, or $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/gnome-
> session/sessions , e.g. '--session=gnome', there's more info about this
> in the gnome-session(1), and startx(1) manuals.
> 
> I use it as a fall-back way to start an X session with awesome WM. when
> gnome isn't working(which hasn't happened in a long time), or I just
> don't want to use much RAM, because I need more than 2 VMS.
> 


I do have one, but its much simpler.   All I had was
exec gnome-session
and that was it.

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         covici@ccs.covici.com

Re: [gentoo-user] cannot properly start gdm

[covici]

"J." García <jyo.garcia@gmail.com> wrote:

> El vie, 03-06-2016 a las 14:16 -0400, covici@ccs.covici.com escribió:
> > David Abbott <dabbott@gentoo.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > > John I still don't see your ~/.xinitrc when you use startx. 
> > > ...
> > I don't have the file you are looking for.  My .Xsession-errors is
> > quite
> > old.
> > 
> ~/.xinitrc you should have written if you are starting X with startx.
> It's contents should be something like this if you want to start gnome:
> ---
> export XDG_MENU_PREFIX=gnome-
> exec dbus-lanuch --exit-with-session \ 
> 	gnome-session --session=${SESSION_NAME} 
> ---
> Where ${SESSION_NAME} references to one of the files in
> /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions, or $XDG_CONFIG_HOME/gnome-
> session/sessions , e.g. '--session=gnome', there's more info about this
> in the gnome-session(1), and startx(1) manuals.
> 
> I use it as a fall-back way to start an X session with awesome WM. when
> gnome isn't working(which hasn't happened in a long time), or I just
> don't want to use much RAM, because I need more than 2 VMS.
> 

Well, moving xorg.conf out of the way did not produce any different
results.  It did not effect either starting gdm nor startx.

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