[gentoo-user] The new Gentoo user and the Kernel

[gentoo-user] The new Gentoo user and the Kernel

[Henson Sturgill]

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Hi!

I'm new to Gentoo, but really loving the amount of control it provides (I'm
guessing all Gentoo-users are control freaks?) During my initial install, I
forgot to enable tmpfs -- though it was clearly printed in the manual.

While looking for a solution, I saw countless forum posts from users with
the same "problem". Which makes me wonder..

Why not patch the default config to have these items enabled?

Is it a legacy thing, a way to force users into reading documentation and
becoming more self sufficient, or are we just trying to stay true to the
upstream developers? Maybe something else?

Thanks!

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Re: [gentoo-user] The new Gentoo user and the Kernel

[Philip Webb]

130305 Henson Sturgill wrote:
> I'm new to Gentoo,

Welcome ! -- you should find this list friendly & useful.

> ... but really loving the amount of control it provides
> I'm guessing all Gentoo-users are control freaks?

We tend to build our own machines -- this is a good source of info --
& like to have them do what we want, not some lowest common denominator,
but Gentoo is not about overclocking or neurotic fine-tuning.

> During my initial install, I forgot to enable tmpfs
> -- though it was clearly printed in the manual.

Yes, always follow the manual & if necessary go back & do it again.

> While looking for a solution, I saw countless forum posts
> from users with the same "problem". Which makes me wonder.

The Forum cb useful occasionally, but the noise/signal is far too high :
it's the student cafeteria, whereas this is the staff common-room.

> Why not patch the default config to have these items enabled?

At this point, the answer is probably : "Patch it yourself".
That's the Gentoo attitude : if you need advice how to, then ask here.

> Is it a way to force users into reading documentation
> and becoming more self sufficient,
> or are we just trying to stay true to upstream developers?

Probably partly both.

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[gentoo-user] Re: The new Gentoo user and the Kernel

[»Q«]

On Tue, 5 Mar 2013 13:31:35 -0500
Henson Sturgill <henson.gentoo@gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm new to Gentoo, but really loving the amount of control it
> provides (I'm guessing all Gentoo-users are control freaks?) During
> my initial install, I forgot to enable tmpfs -- though it was clearly
> printed in the manual.
> 
> While looking for a solution, I saw countless forum posts from users
> with the same "problem". Which makes me wonder..
> 
> Why not patch the default config to have these items enabled?
> 
> Is it a legacy thing, a way to force users into reading documentation
> and becoming more self sufficient, or are we just trying to stay true
> to the upstream developers? Maybe something else?

I'm not completely sure, but I believe it's just the config that comes
from upstream.  For Gentoo users who want a kernel automagically
configured, there's genkernel.

Welcome to Gentoo!  Have fun!  :)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The new Gentoo user and the Kernel

[David Abbott]

On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 3:53 PM, »Q« <boxcars@gmx.net> wrote:
> On Tue, 5 Mar 2013 13:31:35 -0500
> Henson Sturgill <henson.gentoo@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm new to Gentoo, but really loving the amount of control it
>> provides (I'm guessing all Gentoo-users are control freaks?) During
>> my initial install, I forgot to enable tmpfs -- though it was clearly
>> printed in the manual.
>>
>> While looking for a solution, I saw countless forum posts from users
>> with the same "problem". Which makes me wonder..
>>
>> Why not patch the default config to have these items enabled?
>>
>> Is it a legacy thing, a way to force users into reading documentation
>> and becoming more self sufficient, or are we just trying to stay true
>> to the upstream developers? Maybe something else?
>
> I'm not completely sure, but I believe it's just the config that comes
> from upstream.  For Gentoo users who want a kernel automagically
> configured, there's genkernel.
>
> Welcome to Gentoo!  Have fun!  :)
>
>

Many Gentooligans start with a kernel-seed :)
http://kernel-seeds.org/seeds/64_bit/gentoo/
http://kernel-seeds.org/working.html

Yes, have fun,
David

[gentoo-user] Re: The new Gentoo user and the Kernel

[»Q«]

On Tue, 5 Mar 2013 17:49:58 -0500
David Abbott <david@pythontoo.com> wrote:

> Many Gentooligans start with a kernel-seed :)
> http://kernel-seeds.org/seeds/64_bit/gentoo/
> http://kernel-seeds.org/working.html

Thanks!  I didn't know about those.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: The new Gentoo user and the Kernel

[Pandu Poluan]

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On Mar 7, 2013 8:44 AM, "»Q«" <boxcars@gmx.net> wrote:
>
> On Tue, 5 Mar 2013 17:49:58 -0500
> David Abbott <david@pythontoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Many Gentooligans start with a kernel-seed :)
> > http://kernel-seeds.org/seeds/64_bit/gentoo/
> > http://kernel-seeds.org/working.html
>
> Thanks!  I didn't know about those.
>
>

Remember that those are 'seeds'...

So, after familiarizing yourself, you *are* expected to experiment until
you have *your* system.

Happy hackin'! :-)

Rgds,
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