From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A468C138350 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 12:28:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A532E0C97; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 12:28:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-qv1-xf2e.google.com (mail-qv1-xf2e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::f2e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44AD2E097C for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 12:28:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qv1-xf2e.google.com with SMTP id y19so708925qvv.4 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 05:28:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=nFUvtiLlDPLWIFG4+cz5NKemD1EVdVnQquPfeCTm9bA=; b=RzZ1rpfZS/f6+vofNC1W6qT5Jgk0nYkkwj87f2FBNQKeLyeEPZvVPOp352bYZQ5T1l jV6BDCuY75gJXN6wrVc8XrGSEk3IGSXlaBe42vcddeDD9VnVC3n9G4/ixs7GM8oj/n3a BR83GVuZjWzR48MLhj952MWm41OU59jcKZx4YjR01B2Ea4TUF5MKlREJV1uihKsGEMk3 9H4v0tOA3jyxH4zHW8BxzbinLsoOkybow1NGh+Y7BKmptadEejUtGEpAp86icD7wqmHF +C91BG1OwP4bDKpSBk2B5+O6IhgqeMswv8IkIj/BUw8k5hUyoFylFmpk6ESLKkY99nC6 2bAQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=nFUvtiLlDPLWIFG4+cz5NKemD1EVdVnQquPfeCTm9bA=; b=F5JhERD0taxtsZ7MQrA+xHYEE7LAwNFhSieARaqmllPoohx8URD5VQgfpe4Ur81ErS 5PqXYPjr9OHUvs6w7QREeGtxgiz5MLCZkwEyDVB16J5CXivTiamY057cl9Kqjj6+bRrf m2Mt0k5/5ucFmPrqDNhpPCp+NG5pMepWj0DqzbMDHHzAwaC8y4PF0PJasrda3oppE+uU H5uBBT5ZGWK+cCl9Qeu4dZ+8skKJI/bmpx98EWqzQyEb6GPAXK9cdHkc5QxI7/k2Llnf fDLWDoWQmFFBivISyxIx5tAPwRZfdXVZDxszOu8kNsSfST9b7k0YgJEJsTQ2KD7vBujo NtAQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuYA0C2+LWuSsSkgVFAt1Fd6WIXVWSU4i3zFjgqkGB35XAj/YcH5 SqWi+Dm1HeozQBODtQ2s7KMYaq4cre2NX3xJBttgqw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypKskAGyZSSuI6tw3Bvh2Q8DaPe1pqqMyrhfH6xszzXSRHBhbIKJZWSi7Fa4cX5zmhp50HyVktaPtO+Vvs/rPDY= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:13cc:: with SMTP id cg12mr25163141qvb.100.1587558515230; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 05:28:35 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20200421165803.GB187193@redacted> <20200421171117.ofpcgmah3gq2pggx@ad-gentoo-main.Home> In-Reply-To: <20200421171117.ofpcgmah3gq2pggx@ad-gentoo-main.Home> From: Alessandro Barbieri Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 14:28:24 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead? To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000005c49d005a3e045ee" X-Archives-Salt: 0908cb4e-5db6-416c-b023-fcf8e30eba5b X-Archives-Hash: 536262ba4d54a60bac85a3e7ecd6d564 --0000000000005c49d005a3e045ee Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" There is the ongoing drama about go in the Gentoo-dev ML for example. Il Mar 21 Apr 2020, 19:12 Ashley Dixon ha scritto: > On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 07:58:03PM +0300, Consus wrote: > > In all honesty, is Gentoo dead? Gentoo-Dev is filled with passive > > aggression (though being developers-only mailing list), Github bot warns > > you that contributing new packages to the main repo is low priority and > > probably no one will help you, and even distribution kernel is not an > > official thing, but a desperate attempt of someone to fix things. > > Considering there have been almost 6000 commits to the repository in the > last 21 > days, I would question that claim. > > https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-commits/threads/2020-04/ > > gentoo-dev isn't really filled with any sort aggression. There is > healthy > debate, especially considering the recent switch to Python 3.7 and > masking of > most 3.6-only packages, but that rigorous scrutiny is a requirement for > such a > strong distro. > > There have, of course, been exceptions, such as when bman went > on an > "unsanctioned Python crusade" (removal of all Python 2 packages; > not the > greatest of ideas), however in general, the Gentoo community is one of > the most > alive and healthy I've seen in any Linux distribution. > > > https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/6e8d816eb0125d6581be70f575272653 > > -- > > Ashley Dixon > suugaku.co.uk > > 2A9A 4117 > DA96 D18A > 8A7B B0D2 > A30E BF25 > F290 A8AA > > --0000000000005c49d005a3e045ee Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
There is the ongoing drama about go in the Gentoo-dev ML = for example.

Il Mar 21 Apr 2020, 19:12 Ashley Dixon <ash@suugaku.co.uk> ha scritto:
On Tue, Apr 21, 2020 at 07:58:03PM +0300, Consus wrote:=
> In all honesty, is Gentoo dead? Gentoo-Dev is filled with passive
> aggression (though being developers-only mailing list), Github bot war= ns
> you that contributing new packages to the main repo is low priority an= d
> probably no one will help you, and even distribution kernel is not an<= br> > official thing, but a desperate attempt of someone to fix things.

Considering there have been almost 6000 commits to the repository in the la= st 21
days, I would question that claim.

https://archives.gentoo.org/ge= ntoo-commits/threads/2020-04/

gentoo-dev isn't really filled with=C2=A0 any=C2=A0 sort=C2=A0 aggressi= on.=C2=A0 =C2=A0There=C2=A0 is=C2=A0 healthy
debate, especially considering the recent switch to Python 3.7=C2=A0 and=C2= =A0 masking=C2=A0 of
most 3.6-only packages, but that rigorous scrutiny is a requirement for=C2= =A0 such=C2=A0 a
strong distro.

There=C2=A0 have,=C2=A0 of=C2=A0 course,=C2=A0 been=C2=A0 exceptions,=C2=A0= such=C2=A0 as=C2=A0 when=C2=A0 bman=C2=A0 went=C2=A0 on=C2=A0 an
"unsanctioned Python crusade"=C2=A0 (removal=C2=A0 of=C2=A0 all= =C2=A0 Python=C2=A0 2=C2=A0 packages;=C2=A0 not=C2=A0 the
greatest of ideas), however in general, the Gentoo community is one of the= =C2=A0 most
alive and healthy I've seen in any Linux distribution.

https://ar= chives.gentoo.org/gentoo-dev/message/6e8d816eb0125d6581be70f575272653
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