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From: John Blinka <john.blinka@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Genlop wonky again
Date: Sat, 6 Jan 2024 11:12:54 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAC_tCmrDpv5C+3AAOCdvywOd65uxVS=cgoOjmpmtMPsoo2rQBw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0203f68a-f02f-447d-af93-3ce828c41acf@youngman.org.uk>

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On Sat, Jan 6, 2024 at 3:56 AM Wols Lists <antlists@youngman.org.uk> wrote:

> On 06/01/2024 00:54, John Blinka wrote:
> > I’ve often found that it gives one estimate when multiple packages are
> > being built, then a much longer estimate for still-in-progress builds
> > once some of the builds have finished.
> >
> > That result defies common sense. Less remaining work has to take less,
> > not more (much more), time.
>
> Common sense isn't common and, well, often doesn't make sense.
>
> If there's a bunch of small builds skewing the "time per build" estimate
> down, as they drop off the list the estimated time per build will go up,
> and if the skew is serious enough it can even make the total estimated
> time go up ...


I don’t follow you. What is the source of this “skew”? Why should more
available processing power/less load cause builds to run more slowly? I’d
really like to  understand your point.

I have observed what I reported above many times, often when there are 2
builds running, a long one and a shorter one. Once the shorter one ends ,
the longer one’s time estimate via genlop increases , sometimes by 2x. And
it doesn’t actually take 2x longer - the new estimate is just grossly
wrong. Invoking skew or common sense being uncommon/wrong doesn’t change my
and the original poster’s observations that genlop sometimes gives really
bad time estimates. Something’s not right.

Respectfully

John

>

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  reply	other threads:[~2024-01-06 16:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-01-05 23:51 [gentoo-user] Genlop wonky again Peter Humphrey
2024-01-06  0:54 ` John Blinka
2024-01-06  8:56   ` Wols Lists
2024-01-06 16:12     ` John Blinka [this message]
2024-01-06 16:21       ` Wols Lists
2024-01-06 16:29         ` Jack
2024-01-06 17:46           ` gennaro amelio
2024-01-06 17:59         ` Peter Humphrey
2024-01-06 19:28           ` Wols Lists
2024-01-07  0:52             ` Peter Humphrey
2024-01-07  8:34               ` Wols Lists
2024-01-09  3:35                 ` Peter Humphrey
2024-01-09  5:26                   ` Wols Lists
2024-01-07 10:12               ` Wols Lists
2024-01-06 16:26 ` Daniel Pielmeier
2024-01-06 18:02   ` Peter Humphrey
2024-01-07  9:54 ` [gentoo-user] " Nuno Silva

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