From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66BB21382C5 for ; Fri, 14 May 2021 01:35:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 24768E082B; Fri, 14 May 2021 01:35:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ej1-x632.google.com (mail-ej1-x632.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::632]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C0426E07DB for ; Fri, 14 May 2021 01:35:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ej1-x632.google.com with SMTP id b25so42389023eju.5 for ; Thu, 13 May 2021 18:35:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=pTnCU/4ylxGPlqrrs5vDBIWDRIqCa3Q6p1H+03ALziw=; b=XceM4O0uzI1MHwhuybGt4aRR/HmYv+K9NH2RS6dHfPISZXL98qDMC+v5zCI9wxZaGn iySnK5x68qpCFs48e+w+6pOBXvSk67SOdOpsQfNYLj94RdaAz+bx5kVu2wwIux1q3tBk ECOulc4AkER+l5jwNZqaBlzeHkxzmGs3hDxo0apz3xsiwDNJV/k+zySJ3mzBZ9SisI2H gnPtaDAtsOWVjaoZKEVvrENgc93EkeZ4MdMCu09wu6bh7Z52Rees/hrzsx2mAVe0ejjd HpMFH9N1oe3K08sEJW5N9Z82TglGTTGlAxogzhGo4GlxA3Ew/lXKC1MUjagx+ZfyltBg J8bg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=pTnCU/4ylxGPlqrrs5vDBIWDRIqCa3Q6p1H+03ALziw=; b=j1vfc7kLm/yyLczWtk2h9hWz6LmHt1i8fqWLKdegduT74Jwm/EEDaFFGncM/rXVZ94 q5f83NiKb+ZQ0Ya0rTdkQNeUm7nlGRf42It1h5dDnWZIm1sLNRPwF1TX0XcBkwQIjFdQ hlanWJ5Jp7WldSMyVl6y4WbMXyA5cOjZuBhtFN86I2P2SQQSpg/9KUNp5t6QAYQz9N50 U1us2R/Dz124f6L8SDlPZI0xZtL5B45YIiSadxYCHDABT5Zied9EQgWM245bDXVMnUov ziO+M0RIjkCvKS5ffx2R7PtH6LPw8gAIZBd2dgg6XyDigGKDrkvULVNQWUflY3tCB39J qGlQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533Tpg01k1koXql8exiq3E8v5iJhF0seFY2R0u1ByWAYCzSPH1Ji gn4eAvtXff6MR9Qbf4+EWTVFJria0y0vba+HhM/jC22u X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxAOS0oL4fjZRg02UYzwdm2YagI6kuh7RrL604sU4zmHM5aYxII6GACVBRVPdoBn+q6b4etBsjzQ6pG5q2x8JA= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:1185:: with SMTP id n5mr1885443eja.342.1620956109326; Thu, 13 May 2021 18:35:09 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <0dbd47db-6556-f231-0a03-294056c1ad05@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <0dbd47db-6556-f231-0a03-294056c1ad05@gmail.com> From: John Blinka Date: Thu, 13 May 2021 21:34:57 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: [gentoo-user] =?UTF-8?B?UmU6IFtnZW50b28tdXNlcl0gUmU6IFtnZW50b28tdXNlcl0gYm9vdCBoYW5ncyBmb3Jldg==?= =?UTF-8?B?ZXIgYXQg4oCcTG9hZGluZyBpbml0aWFsIHJhbWRpc2suLi7igJ0=?= To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000017cb1005c2404170" X-Archives-Salt: 40cdaff6-15f5-4e68-91d4-7746a47e3c04 X-Archives-Hash: c4bc7000bb50680d162e6397be55575f --00000000000017cb1005c2404170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 9:10 PM Dale wrote: > > I hate these init thingys and will admit I know little about the > things. I had a thought tho, could it be that the file system needed to > read the init thingy isn't included somehow or in the kernel maybe? If > it is pointing to the right place, sounds like it is to me, then it has > to be a read problem I'd think. All the uefi stuff is on a fat filesystem. I would think that something that fundamental (and universally supported) is embedded in the bios. The grub bootloader itself is on that fat filesystem, and it must have loaded or else I wouldn=E2=80=99t have access to the grub edit facility. So I thi= nk I=E2=80=99m ok on file system support. > > I haven't ever had to use the edit menu on grub2 that I remember. It > might be worth mentioning that it may have tab completion. That would > certainly remove a typo if it can complete the kernel or init thingys > file name on its own. Just a thought. Grub documentation says it does have tab completion. But the file names, uuids, and other things prone to typos that I referenced are generated by grub, so typos are unlikely to be an issue. And I=E2=80=99ve checked them meticulously. They look ok. > > Going back under my desk now. Maybe I=E2=80=99d be less frustrated by this new mobo if I did the same! ;) John --00000000000017cb1005c2404170 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


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On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 9:10 PM D= ale <rdalek196= 7@gmail.com> wrote:

I hate these init thingys and will admit I know little about the
things.=C2=A0 I had a thought tho, could it be that the file system needed = to
read the init thingy isn't included somehow or in the kernel maybe?=C2= =A0 If
it is pointing to the right place, sounds like it is to me, then it has
to be a read problem I'd think.

All the uefi stuff is on a fat filesystem.=C2= =A0 I would think that something that fundamental (and universally supporte= d) is embedded in the bios.=C2=A0 The grub bootloader itself is on that fat= filesystem, and it must have loaded or else I wouldn=E2=80=99t have access= to the grub edit facility.=C2=A0 So I think I=E2=80=99m ok on file system = support.
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I haven't ever had to use the edit menu on grub2 that I remember.=C2=A0= It
might be worth mentioning that it may have tab completion.=C2=A0 That would=
certainly remove a typo if it can complete the kernel or init thingys
file name on its own.=C2=A0 Just a thought.
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Grub documentation says it does have tab complet= ion.=C2=A0 But the file names, uuids, and other things prone to typos that = I referenced are generated by grub, so typos are unlikely to be an issue.= =C2=A0 And I=E2=80=99ve checked them meticulously.=C2=A0 They look ok.

Going back under my desk now.

Maybe I=E2=80=99d be less frustrated by this new mobo if I did= the same! ;)

John
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