From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1B05515808B for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2024 16:49:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6EA3EE2A08; Fri, 27 Sep 2024 16:49:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yb1-xb29.google.com (mail-yb1-xb29.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::b29]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 302F1E29A9 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2024 16:49:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yb1-xb29.google.com with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e05f25fb96eso2199810276.1 for ; Fri, 27 Sep 2024 09:49:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1727455768; x=1728060568; darn=lists.gentoo.org; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=1n8GQ9OdhKG75IizmYbecnHt3xR+/1OXE1od5odW06A=; b=jb7b0wQ6C0AHezO/XteUc41Rh0B0tCRMCfAba6zgiMfFn0tP1nftHeUcP/HL8RUqF/ w4NCRq99t+n7JHc+WuX1LHSkPfZX4XbyyUqS+oYBX8iFhohwBxaYibFz0Q/ahZMOPY6C mc8vb4smBYDHuKCeOF7yllnUXiNODgcosKaKiE7RIapfbsRNc33lcUi8RRtQ0LsD26aq ajQoXnhXUYU5+09vM6tuaEs7BpiFoW05U94PnuUzGJdGilNm1DtSYy7Spi+01GLXQJv0 68XPBu/OTz2XcrlD4U0AOb+cfDfdTFYBGZpTbqA4Qkzp+8/SKbeqpX7a0ihdPiV1xDMv pZ5A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1727455768; x=1728060568; h=to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=1n8GQ9OdhKG75IizmYbecnHt3xR+/1OXE1od5odW06A=; b=Hg01EI3eBzkTGqWWGIVMJ2EkZXo/VQ3Mt+/dFS2KE+JRZwYVDrgoquvFERuyEyBtaR E3XW5xDD3xqcAwr12PeDjss403JnQZFaSG9rQaYmnfXtDUXVFM1RZMKcOM1QfX0mXOq4 7bAQxortxec5oE+NCYXfC6x/ZHjDpozcqTMLCesseHVXa/1jO7qxopyLfWlKtORvtoDT xJj48v4kq5A/mmgdAxrOHRsRXROjTLQwg+YXggkL26+MAt+hpIsv93wSLAkA6c89U4ED I1OqJAvl0WgyuXCmWvbIjNnpi/hJS6TjhMN28FkedBQVdPcdc+0R4zrKDzqB7ezdYB6L /n3A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yy7jcVYJ/WIVRxp/71HsoSfvTCCFYnD+08aV7GrZ9Ax4SB3Kmwn nB62WkDRXlVX+0X3k4hrr/E4JJtJJLOo/4B3fdZnFkrMUR4d0uXQSlCejtUhBS6YQEsHn38WRCW cFAsscdVa/b2u687vsJMcxy+2IGroDQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IF3Rz0c4i1Cv+HlbSrrT5RoSK7EQ+U/8ctYYxW6vJlL6t9sqnb0FYGaUvvxIQoiv0f7kLfXwheAUd2bfG7hCPA= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6902:2205:b0:e16:69b5:ef62 with SMTP id 3f1490d57ef6-e2604b22d7fmr2556267276.5.1727455767953; Fri, 27 Sep 2024 09:49:27 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <2284374.iZASKD2KPV@rogueboard> <61ae6f8b-c889-5c7d-1e4a-2ab493f9bfb6@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: John Blinka Date: Fri, 27 Sep 2024 12:49:16 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Computer system email no not working since gmail change. To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000006a0a8106231ca3cd" X-Archives-Salt: 9c99713f-d4e8-452d-bf07-8fe2ae0829fe X-Archives-Hash: 96e76781626fd9178874739aab3bc16f --0000000000006a0a8106231ca3cd Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 9:43 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 05:44:08AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > > > > That said, if you're interested in limiting opportunistic snooping, > something > > > like this may help: > > > > > > https://proton.me/mail > > > > > > I'll have to check into that more. I'm not sure I could send my system > > emails through that tho. It sounds like it requires encryption end to > > end. I think. > > > > Dale > > I would actually try and set up local mail delivery straight to /var/spoo= l > without the detour over a network. We=E2=80=99ve had this topic already, = methinks. > You can then add the folder to Thunderbird/Seamonkey, since spool usually > is > mbox format, which is also the default in TB. > > -- > Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe | Greetings | Salut | Qapla=E2=80=99 > Please do not share anything from, with or about me on any social network= . > > If a snowball is a ball of snow =E2=80=93 what, then, is a football? > Exactly. I used to send system email out through gmail, but after periodic breakages in that route due to Google security changes, I realized keeping these emails within my local network was a more reliable, lower hassle alternative for me: postfix/dovecot/mutt. I just use it for system mails, so config was straightforward. No more gmail config hassles, no more Google reading my emails. The one time I=E2=80=99ve been hacked was through gmail,= so I=E2=80=99ve also eliminated a security risk. Not the answer to the question asked, so possibly not a useful one, but maybe food for thought. John Blinka --0000000000006a0a8106231ca3cd Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 9:43 AM Frank Steinmetzger <Warp_7@gmx.de> wrote:
Am Thu, Sep 26, 2024 at 05:44:08AM -0500 schrieb Dale:

> > That said, if you're interested in limiting opportunistic sno= oping, something
> > like this may help:
> >
> > https://proton.me/mail
>
>
> I'll have to check into that more.=C2=A0 I'm not sure I could = send my system
> emails through that tho.=C2=A0 It sounds like it requires encryption e= nd to
> end.=C2=A0 I think.=C2=A0
>
> Dale

I would actually try and set up local mail delivery straight to /var/spool =
without the detour over a network. We=E2=80=99ve had this topic already, me= thinks.
You can then add the folder to Thunderbird/Seamonkey, since spool usually i= s
mbox format, which is also the default in TB.

--
Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe | Greetings | Salut | Qapla=E2=80=99
Please do not share anything from, with or about me on any social network.<= br>
If a snowball is a ball of snow =E2=80=93 what, then, is a football?
Exactly. I used to send system e= mail out through gmail, but after periodic breakages in that route due to G= oogle security changes, I realized keeping these emails within my local net= work was a more reliable, lower hassle alternative for me: postfix/dovecot/= mutt. I just use it for system mails, so config was straightforward. No mor= e gmail config hassles, no more Google reading my emails. The one time I=E2= =80=99ve been hacked was through gmail, so I=E2=80=99ve also eliminated a s= ecurity risk.

Not the an= swer to the question asked, so possibly not a useful one, but maybe food fo= r thought.

John Blinka --0000000000006a0a8106231ca3cd--