From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12059158094 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2022 09:23:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 92253E0EFD; Mon, 18 Jul 2022 09:23:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-lf1-x129.google.com (mail-lf1-x129.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::129]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C23C9E0EEE for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2022 09:23:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lf1-x129.google.com with SMTP id d12so18243490lfq.12 for ; Mon, 18 Jul 2022 02:23:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=dRe/j4C4vYfn6U28R6z833zUKvEwBFWgVMzA+QeD2/M=; b=OblegmH37augPYTw5Eg6mhsGZM/pjAO5TM12QKgIB1BJSjtO5P18kkrFlRqqJX65lk ZC25g4ijJExlyV8C1spmlAI+qdOgJTsJxpDuIcqTBmK7Po/Kj6a6WIF3lzVpSsrqjgEO wVtxz2HgG7fIQ0Zknkn/vCzxkBY4VPHqKBg/A50txvICPkVpMJvusEYACxfE3edDVKf/ EvOqKeshYnyn/ID/knSyH4li7VUKyYoGPZj8nFml1Q6YhKn016bkfd9Qjm35ijItCcHI 5i2+YUe0KpaO1eFvwIw/5Qa6pa6pemP+VMzLhDKty19VsZ3b/tolhNqQv27SF2ZgE35W 9yBw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=dRe/j4C4vYfn6U28R6z833zUKvEwBFWgVMzA+QeD2/M=; b=l+WBa4noJoWNZd1ty78gRV+p+eUixHuQhHHUbRJxqnO6BUNK9RnhrnlPWo3FbhSqyj Sz/zv0+MSnYFSb08pNKRPZGZj56ZIJVb7UQT3707dW99OembnbmqehghKYWh4p/yk0un 40KNgVeqpo7E5L/vI4q+Yfjw3gMCnAp27mXORXIFpBjayLIO7+oV8nORwzW306LXCjRP KrmElJKjIXFuazGFbc6VeVUqqWJQqoEef7iyPqfLg6k5NaPJBQhRZ55fqOhyvaHnmnQa uLxcDhO50hchvkXe4ncn5ejSheLZVr4ERymvtxV//oVDlJIZ+DmD07KPg6OxTYSIq1jl 9m+A== X-Gm-Message-State: AJIora9NShfA6r2gW9suO4w31Uqyu4j1EO36hfTLUK/3vrzaewELYUJJ fDUpna1avJLJYosgvWBUyOePGmZ19hOlYXxsYrDayHlF6rc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGRyM1v5yk2/2LW0L/If1jNpIfxrZu6OB4TV4ibRnWEFUv2spDM0HkW6T5yGepv1fYmFaDpIzM+jdILY4GIURFGGUT4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:313a:b0:489:caea:7e27 with SMTP id p26-20020a056512313a00b00489caea7e27mr14847477lfd.397.1658136199119; Mon, 18 Jul 2022 02:23:19 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <570389b9-9690-dd8d-3610-61561196131f@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: From: Adam Carter Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2022 19:23:08 +1000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] About to have fiber internet and need VPN info To: Gentoo User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002348c205e410eb6c" X-Archives-Salt: 9145ee26-d03c-4f7a-a9df-d5bc4e889270 X-Archives-Hash: f82df8b1ace7e7ed704c6aba2ddf4d06 --0000000000002348c205e410eb6c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > And you'll need to always keep in mind that a VPN is a low-level > protection. It's enough for protecting yourself against spammers, script > kiddies or > similar but it can't keep you private in the face of any high-level > threats. Don't place too much trust in VPNs. > I'm not an expert, but AFAIK VPNs don't offer any particular benefit with regards to spam or script kiddies. A VPN will; - Hide your internet activity from your ISP - Make your internet activity available to your VPN provider - Make your internet activity available to your VPN provider's ISP Without a VPN, your ISP could sell the details used to sign up for the account (eg. name, phone number, email address) along with your internet activity. With a VPN, the VPN provider could sell similar information, however, there is typically an explicit claim that they won't do this, whereas your ISP has probably buried information on what they do with your information and metadata in Terms and Conditions documents. Your VPN provider's ISP will be able to monitor your internet activity but it will be mixed with the activity of the VPN provider's other customers, and they won't have any of your sign up information. I've heard some VPNs let you pay pseudo anonymously with crypto currency (albeit with a cryptographically verifiable public ledger!), to prevent direct matching of internet activity to an identity. --0000000000002348c205e410eb6c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
And you'll need to always keep in mind that a VPN is a low-level protec= tion. It's enough for protecting yourself against spammers, script kidd= ies or
similar but it can't keep you private in the face of any high-level thr= eats. Don't place too much trust in VPNs.

I'm not an expert, but AFAIK VPNs don't offer any particular= benefit with regards to spam or script kiddies.

A VPN will;
- H= ide your internet activity from your ISP
- Make your internet activity a= vailable to your VPN provider
- Make your internet activity available to= your VPN provider's ISP

Without a VPN, your ISP could sell the = details used to sign up for the account (eg. name, phone number, email addr= ess) along with your internet activity. With a VPN, the VPN provider could = sell similar information, however, there is typically an explicit claim tha= t they won't do this, whereas your ISP has probably buried information = on what they do with your information and metadata in Terms and Conditions = documents. Your VPN provider's ISP will be able to monitor your interne= t activity but it will be mixed with the activity of the VPN provider's= other customers, and they won't have any of your sign up information.<= br>
I've heard some VPNs let you pay pseudo anonymously with crypto = currency (albeit with a cryptographically verifiable public ledger!), to pr= event direct matching of internet activity to an identity.=C2=A0
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