[gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card

[gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card

[John Covici]

Hi all.

I have run into a problem, where I am getting no sound out of the jack
on my sound card.  I think this happened since the last major reboot
after my world update.

If I use a usb sound card I have things work fine, but not the one on
the motherboard.  Here is the card spec using the listpci.

00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Cannon Lake PCH cAVS (rev 10)
        Subsystem: Super Micro Computer Inc Cannon Lake PCH cAVS
	           Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 32, IRQ 157
			         Memory at a2430000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable)
        [size=16K]
	           Memory at a2000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable)
        [size=1M]
	           Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3
			         Capabilities: [80] Vendor Specific
        Information: Len=14 <?>
	           Capabilities: [60] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable-
        64bit+
	           Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
			         Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel, snd_soc_skl

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

         John Covici wb2una
         covici@ccs.covici.com

Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card

[Dale]

John Covici wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> I have run into a problem, where I am getting no sound out of the jack
> on my sound card.  I think this happened since the last major reboot
> after my world update.
>
> If I use a usb sound card I have things work fine, but not the one on
> the motherboard.  Here is the card spec using the listpci.
>
> 00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Cannon Lake PCH cAVS (rev 10)
>         Subsystem: Super Micro Computer Inc Cannon Lake PCH cAVS
> 	           Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 32, IRQ 157
> 			         Memory at a2430000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable)
>         [size=16K]
> 	           Memory at a2000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable)
>         [size=1M]
> 	           Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3
> 			         Capabilities: [80] Vendor Specific
>         Information: Len=14 <?>
> 	           Capabilities: [60] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable-
>         64bit+
> 	           Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
> 			         Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel, snd_soc_skl
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>


I'm going to mention this because I've done this myself, more than
once.  Are you sure you have enabled, unmuted, the controls in all the
places that control it?  I recall my first install.  I think I had to
unmute the sound in three places before I had sound.  I seem to recall
at least these possibilities in more recent memory.  Kmix if using KDE,
ALSA, possibly pipewire which is kinda new and I'm not sure what
desktops use or don't use it.  You could have pulseaudio as well.  Jack
I think is another one but never used it so not sure.  Of course, there
could be others as well.  The bad thing is, it only takes one to disable
the sound.  The upgrade could have triggered something. 

Also, make sure you run the tool to update config changes, just in case
it has something waiting and is needed. 

That may or may not help but thought it worth a mention.  Just in case. 
;-) 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card

[Michael]

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On Wednesday, 8 November 2023 19:53:56 GMT John Covici wrote:
> Hi all.
> 
> I have run into a problem, where I am getting no sound out of the jack
> on my sound card.  I think this happened since the last major reboot
> after my world update.
> 
> If I use a usb sound card I have things work fine, but not the one on
> the motherboard.  Here is the card spec using the listpci.
> 
> 00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Cannon Lake PCH cAVS (rev 10)
>         Subsystem: Super Micro Computer Inc Cannon Lake PCH cAVS
> 	           Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 32, IRQ 157
> 			         Memory at a2430000 (64-bit, non-
prefetchable)
>         [size=16K]
> 	           Memory at a2000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable)
>         [size=1M]
> 	           Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3
> 			         Capabilities: [80] Vendor Specific
>         Information: Len=14 <?>
> 	           Capabilities: [60] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable-
>         64bit+
> 	           Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
> 			         Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel, 
snd_soc_skl
> 
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Have you walked through the obvious first, e.g. dmesg does not complain of 
missing firmware and alsamixer, or pactl, or the desktop's audio mixer GUI, 
(e.g. kmix), do not show a muted headphone jack output?

There's also a chance the HDMI channel is configured as the default output 
device, rather than PCM.  In this case 'aplay --list-devices' will shed some 
light and you can set your default device in ~/.asoundrc.

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RE: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card

[John Covici]

The kernel I am using is 6.1.60-gentoo


-----Original Message-----
From: John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 2:54 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card

Hi all.

I have run into a problem, where I am getting no sound out of the jack
on my sound card.  I think this happened since the last major reboot
after my world update.

If I use a usb sound card I have things work fine, but not the one on
the motherboard.  Here is the card spec using the listpci.

00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Cannon Lake PCH cAVS (rev 10)
        Subsystem: Super Micro Computer Inc Cannon Lake PCH cAVS
	           Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 32, IRQ 157
			         Memory at a2430000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable)
        [size=16K]
	           Memory at a2000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable)
        [size=1M]
	           Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3
			         Capabilities: [80] Vendor Specific
        Information: Len=14 <?>
	           Capabilities: [60] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable-
        64bit+
	           Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
			         Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel, snd_soc_skl

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

-- 
Your life is like a penny.  You're going to lose it.  The question is:
How do
you spend it?

         John Covici wb2una
         covici@ccs.covici.com

RE: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card

[John Covici]

Everything is unmuted, verified with amixer and even alsami

-----Original Message-----
From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 3:26 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card

John Covici wrote:
> Hi all.
>
> I have run into a problem, where I am getting no sound out of the jack
> on my sound card.  I think this happened since the last major reboot
> after my world update.
>
> If I use a usb sound card I have things work fine, but not the one on
> the motherboard.  Here is the card spec using the listpci.
>
> 00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Cannon Lake PCH cAVS (rev 10)
>         Subsystem: Super Micro Computer Inc Cannon Lake PCH cAVS
> 	           Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 32, IRQ 157
> 			         Memory at a2430000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable)
>         [size=16K]
> 	           Memory at a2000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable)
>         [size=1M]
> 	           Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3
> 			         Capabilities: [80] Vendor Specific
>         Information: Len=14 <?>
> 	           Capabilities: [60] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable-
>         64bit+
> 	           Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
> 			         Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel, snd_soc_skl
>
> Any suggestions would be appreciated.
>


I'm going to mention this because I've done this myself, more than
once.  Are you sure you have enabled, unmuted, the controls in all the
places that control it?  I recall my first install.  I think I had to
unmute the sound in three places before I had sound.  I seem to recall
at least these possibilities in more recent memory.  Kmix if using KDE,
ALSA, possibly pipewire which is kinda new and I'm not sure what
desktops use or don't use it.  You could have pulseaudio as well.  Jack
I think is another one but never used it so not sure.  Of course, there
could be others as well.  The bad thing is, it only takes one to disable
the sound.  The upgrade could have triggered something. 

Also, make sure you run the tool to update config changes, just in case
it has something waiting and is needed. 

That may or may not help but thought it worth a mention.  Just in case.;-) 

Thanks for the quick response.  Everything is unmuted, verified with amixerr and even alsamixer.  This is just in a virtual console, no gui involved.

RE: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card

[Jude DaShiell]

If pipewire is used, and wireplumber isn't already on the machine it's
time to install it and allow the install to remove a soon deprecated
pipewire-media-manager package.  That may help.
If pulseaudio is used could be pulseaudio --cleanup-shm needs doing.
In either case, I'd first run alsactl init then amixer set Master 100%
unmute and check volume levels.  If good alsactl store may also help or
throw an error.
Perhaps plug a headset into the onboard sound card and listen to see if
it's doing anything at all before doing any of this so you have a
baseline.  Somehow the card could have got disabled.
This is why I bought a crystal cs usb sound card I can plug into a usb-a
port and still have sound no matter what the computer thinks it's doing.
Saved my bacon a few times.

You could also be having jackd problems in which case I can't help you
since I haven't the necessary jackd degree.


-- Jude <jdashiel at panix dot com> "There are four boxes to be used in
defense of liberty: soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that
order." Ed Howdershelt 1940.

On Wed, 8 Nov 2023, John Covici wrote:

> Everything is unmuted, verified with amixer and even alsami
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 3:26 PM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card
>
> John Covici wrote:
> > Hi all.
> >
> > I have run into a problem, where I am getting no sound out of the jack
> > on my sound card.  I think this happened since the last major reboot
> > after my world update.
> >
> > If I use a usb sound card I have things work fine, but not the one on
> > the motherboard.  Here is the card spec using the listpci.
> >
> > 00:1f.3 Audio device: Intel Corporation Cannon Lake PCH cAVS (rev 10)
> >         Subsystem: Super Micro Computer Inc Cannon Lake PCH cAVS
> > 	           Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 32, IRQ 157
> > 			         Memory at a2430000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable)
> >         [size=16K]
> > 	           Memory at a2000000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable)
> >         [size=1M]
> > 	           Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 3
> > 			         Capabilities: [80] Vendor Specific
> >         Information: Len=14 <?>
> > 	           Capabilities: [60] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable-
> >         64bit+
> > 	           Kernel driver in use: snd_hda_intel
> > 			         Kernel modules: snd_hda_intel, snd_soc_skl
> >
> > Any suggestions would be appreciated.
> >
>
>
> I'm going to mention this because I've done this myself, more than
> once.  Are you sure you have enabled, unmuted, the controls in all the
> places that control it?  I recall my first install.  I think I had to
> unmute the sound in three places before I had sound.  I seem to recall
> at least these possibilities in more recent memory.  Kmix if using KDE,
> ALSA, possibly pipewire which is kinda new and I'm not sure what
> desktops use or don't use it.  You could have pulseaudio as well.  Jack
> I think is another one but never used it so not sure.  Of course, there
> could be others as well.  The bad thing is, it only takes one to disable
> the sound.  The upgrade could have triggered something.
>
> Also, make sure you run the tool to update config changes, just in case
> it has something waiting and is needed.
>
> That may or may not help but thought it worth a mention.  Just in case.;-)
>
> Thanks for the quick response.  Everything is unmuted, verified with amixerr and even alsamixer.  This is just in a virtual console, no gui involved.
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card

[Michael Orlitzky]

On Wed, 2023-11-08 at 14:53 -0500, John Covici wrote:
> Hi all.
> 
> I have run into a problem, where I am getting no sound out of the jack
> on my sound card.  I think this happened since the last major reboot
> after my world update.

The last time I did this to myself, it was by disabling all of the
codecs in the kernel. Search for CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC and make sure
they're enabled?

RE: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card

[John Covici]

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Orlitzky <mjo@gentoo.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 4:32 PM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card

On Wed, 2023-11-08 at 14:53 -0500, John Covici wrote:
> Hi all.
> 
> I have run into a problem, where I am getting no sound out of the jack
> on my sound card.  I think this happened since the last major reboot
> after my world update.

The last time I did this to myself, it was by disabling all of the
codecs in the kernel. Search for CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC and make sure
they're enabled?

Yep, all there.  I may try with older kernel and see if that makes a difference, but I suspect alsa.

Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card

[Todd Goodman]

On 11/8/2023 5:10 PM, John Covici wrote:
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Orlitzky <mjo@gentoo.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 4:32 PM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card
>
> On Wed, 2023-11-08 at 14:53 -0500, John Covici wrote:
>> Hi all.
>>
>> I have run into a problem, where I am getting no sound out of the jack
>> on my sound card.  I think this happened since the last major reboot
>> after my world update.
> The last time I did this to myself, it was by disabling all of the
> codecs in the kernel. Search for CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC and make sure
> they're enabled?
>
> Yep, all there.  I may try with older kernel and see if that makes a difference, but I suspect alsa.


FWIW, I lost sound on one machine when I moved to the 6.x kernel series.

I only did a little bit of debugging off and on and never got it back.

It was an Intel HDA.

Booting a 5.x kernel had sound.

I always figured it was a kernel config issue but I did have the codec 
enabled and everything else I checked.

Todd

>
>
>
>

Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card

[Lee]

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OP: Are the cards listed in 'aplay -l' ?

Lee 😎

On Thu, Nov 9, 2023, 8:49 AM Todd Goodman <tsg@bonedaddy.net> wrote:

>
> On 11/8/2023 5:10 PM, John Covici wrote:
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Orlitzky <mjo@gentoo.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 4:32 PM
> > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card
> >
> > On Wed, 2023-11-08 at 14:53 -0500, John Covici wrote:
> >> Hi all.
> >>
> >> I have run into a problem, where I am getting no sound out of the jack
> >> on my sound card.  I think this happened since the last major reboot
> >> after my world update.
> > The last time I did this to myself, it was by disabling all of the
> > codecs in the kernel. Search for CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC and make sure
> > they're enabled?
> >
> > Yep, all there.  I may try with older kernel and see if that makes a
> difference, but I suspect alsa.
>
>
> FWIW, I lost sound on one machine when I moved to the 6.x kernel series.
>
> I only did a little bit of debugging off and on and never got it back.
>
> It was an Intel HDA.
>
> Booting a 5.x kernel had sound.
>
> I always figured it was a kernel config issue but I did have the codec
> enabled and everything else I checked.
>
> Todd
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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RE: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card

[John Covici]

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Yep, the card is listed as the first one.
 
 
From: Lee <ny6p01@gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2023 4:53 PM
To: gentoo-user <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card
 
OP: Are the cards listed in 'aplay -l' ?
Lee 😎
 
On Thu, Nov 9, 2023, 8:49 AM Todd Goodman <tsg@bonedaddy.net <mailto:tsg@bonedaddy.net> > wrote:

On 11/8/2023 5:10 PM, John Covici wrote:
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Orlitzky <mjo@gentoo.org <mailto:mjo@gentoo.org> >
> Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 4:32 PM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> 
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card
>
> On Wed, 2023-11-08 at 14:53 -0500, John Covici wrote:
>> Hi all.
>>
>> I have run into a problem, where I am getting no sound out of the jack
>> on my sound card.  I think this happened since the last major reboot
>> after my world update.
> The last time I did this to myself, it was by disabling all of the
> codecs in the kernel. Search for CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC and make sure
> they're enabled?
>
> Yep, all there.  I may try with older kernel and see if that makes a difference, but I suspect alsa.


FWIW, I lost sound on one machine when I moved to the 6.x kernel series.

I only did a little bit of debugging off and on and never got it back.

It was an Intel HDA.

Booting a 5.x kernel had sound.

I always figured it was a kernel config issue but I did have the codec 
enabled and everything else I checked.

Todd

>
>
>
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card

[Lee]

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And have you checked that nothing is muted in alsamixer?

Lee 😎

On Thu, Nov 9, 2023, 1:57 PM John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com> wrote:

> Yep, the card is listed as the first one.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Lee <ny6p01@gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, November 9, 2023 4:53 PM
> *To:* gentoo-user <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
> *Subject:* Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card
>
>
>
> OP: Are the cards listed in 'aplay -l' ?
>
> Lee 😎
>
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 9, 2023, 8:49 AM Todd Goodman <tsg@bonedaddy.net> wrote:
>
>
> On 11/8/2023 5:10 PM, John Covici wrote:
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Orlitzky <mjo@gentoo.org>
> > Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 4:32 PM
> > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
> > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card
> >
> > On Wed, 2023-11-08 at 14:53 -0500, John Covici wrote:
> >> Hi all.
> >>
> >> I have run into a problem, where I am getting no sound out of the jack
> >> on my sound card.  I think this happened since the last major reboot
> >> after my world update.
> > The last time I did this to myself, it was by disabling all of the
> > codecs in the kernel. Search for CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC and make sure
> > they're enabled?
> >
> > Yep, all there.  I may try with older kernel and see if that makes a
> difference, but I suspect alsa.
>
>
> FWIW, I lost sound on one machine when I moved to the 6.x kernel series.
>
> I only did a little bit of debugging off and on and never got it back.
>
> It was an Intel HDA.
>
> Booting a 5.x kernel had sound.
>
> I always figured it was a kernel config issue but I did have the codec
> enabled and everything else I checked.
>
> Todd
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

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RE: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card

[John Covici]

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Yep, If I use another sound card everything is fine.
 
 
From: Lee <ny6p01@gmail.com> 
Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2023 5:23 PM
To: gentoo-user <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card
 
And have you checked that nothing is muted in alsamixer? 
Lee 😎
 
On Thu, Nov 9, 2023, 1:57 PM John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com <mailto:covici@ccs.covici.com> > wrote:
Yep, the card is listed as the first one.
 
 
From: Lee <ny6p01@gmail.com <mailto:ny6p01@gmail.com> > 
Sent: Thursday, November 9, 2023 4:53 PM
To: gentoo-user <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> >
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card
 
OP: Are the cards listed in 'aplay -l' ?
Lee 😎
 
On Thu, Nov 9, 2023, 8:49 AM Todd Goodman <tsg@bonedaddy.net <mailto:tsg@bonedaddy.net> > wrote:

On 11/8/2023 5:10 PM, John Covici wrote:
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Orlitzky <mjo@gentoo.org <mailto:mjo@gentoo.org> >
> Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2023 4:32 PM
> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> 
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] alsa not working with hda intel sound card
>
> On Wed, 2023-11-08 at 14:53 -0500, John Covici wrote:
>> Hi all.
>>
>> I have run into a problem, where I am getting no sound out of the jack
>> on my sound card.  I think this happened since the last major reboot
>> after my world update.
> The last time I did this to myself, it was by disabling all of the
> codecs in the kernel. Search for CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC and make sure
> they're enabled?
>
> Yep, all there.  I may try with older kernel and see if that makes a difference, but I suspect alsa.


FWIW, I lost sound on one machine when I moved to the 6.x kernel series.

I only did a little bit of debugging off and on and never got it back.

It was an Intel HDA.

Booting a 5.x kernel had sound.

I always figured it was a kernel config issue but I did have the codec 
enabled and everything else I checked.

Todd

>
>
>
>

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