From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4208138350 for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 00:11:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 006F5E08F0; Sun, 3 May 2020 00:11:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-io1-xd33.google.com (mail-io1-xd33.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::d33]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA17AE08AE for ; Sun, 3 May 2020 00:11:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-io1-xd33.google.com with SMTP id u11so8593089iow.4 for ; Sat, 02 May 2020 17:11:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=ZsdzJNMnf9rcXPxMBFGrN3U7LHzpG4HLjYeLPeBk3sk=; b=Qp0CvDEJIizo0zNqU7aAvhWzFASn9htzVxpgJRoc7oOW80f3cgw3HV8kxIpUOdOvSV arWYFpFcOIUK4LM+qRfmYuyaof2vAtRykSlKFPNCbZ6+lca6QqMXa9IlRVqEYJtRbKQp uS3DWTnfLbAXwGrBbwzt0B/Gvsy5vmNgDv6VgsVANx3T/8WgWElSjrifJQTpru3PwMqc E2kxW9dlJHdTrFSc6ntYtsVSQ37vCU0/8PvYISiqmUcpLGb4oPpRCWoJ2nBXvRqbs26j 7SfRg1P0LxDNcdPYNE4RYSftAM594UXDw+8MdZifyEtPwccMmZrqkPwZoaF/vGtQxJpy Zo4A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=ZsdzJNMnf9rcXPxMBFGrN3U7LHzpG4HLjYeLPeBk3sk=; b=J//HpUlth8lymfx3fjf0oB34hnHbDeVWyCHTkijPNh4/qn6LGFOvPb9UTFjXX8njyK CdTmsDIRT+2FUnXGNijJPWXbO3K6+59XVR8wIIbT8OgUcSHxKDxy1iLGtjnSxq10ymoo I2C9SjL6q2y6Znk5i1fykrnYNMrFRWP8HIfu1lYsReOexEbSDVGZ0FUfKooh9uG0ENH/ hqZUxI1OeXqn+TY0hjTslRJlZnQgPA7TUegnQSO4MPnyC+kpWZpvpGkl0QHWaCu0ssnb 3zyUoa/1niOf/foR3AlPcyeaYRzjzIaWZRXOtg7g20h9vIGrziix89Lum7oyP7gGRPkH 1AYQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0Pua49+6CDAky7637q1GUn42ZhndpJaOZkyLYY1IDlwT/VNfo1UcO oX3Bh+jO0JN+WARrBvgK1WIctcumDwtMUZgffN7VqfKi45o= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypKHvxjyp1e/a8SZWFoUrfNBp4IciGwjKKXL5a4uo7yZMRqZQ3nnbMhvim7vWfZqkv/npWDaaBHBG28VLALpkzc= X-Received: by 2002:a6b:fc0d:: with SMTP id r13mr9672603ioh.89.1588464693381; Sat, 02 May 2020 17:11:33 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: =?UTF-8?B?0KHQtdGA0LXQs9CwINCk0LjQu9Cw0YLQvtCy?= Date: Sun, 3 May 2020 04:11:19 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 32GB RAM and Swap To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c98f8b05a4b341c5" X-Archives-Salt: 796b917d-9959-4568-b284-4f7d71d43037 X-Archives-Hash: 280d1426a4481327ddff947d44dc7069 --000000000000c98f8b05a4b341c5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I want to say that it really depends on this: - What do you do on your system (what applications do you use, what DE, how is your production ram-hungry, maybe it is some large application that you're contributing on) - How do you do things on your system (shutting down machine every day or suspending it with 1-2 months+ uptime, using only apps you need or leaving plenty of them running in the background, cleaning out tabs in your browser or leaving them always opened in case you need them) - You're using hibernation (if so, you definitely need swap large enough to contain the whole contents of your ram) - Your expectations of the need in swap in the next couple of years (and you really SHOULD expect this. Personally I considered recently that 4 GB is enough for all my needs and now I don't know how to even browse the modern internet with it). You can have a swap in this case for the future. Or if your system will live for couple of years without reinstallation you'll consider that you need swap, so you'll repartition your drive, maybe it'll get full of data to this time and you need to clean it up first, maybe you'll need to backup your data before repartitioning, and so on... It might take a long time in the future. The first time I heard the "oh, you don't really need swap now, it's plenty of ram in modern machines" was mid-2000s. Back then I had a 512MB RAM machine (you'll not get modern fancy browser on it!). And then every 2-3 years I hear that. But I still end up creating a swap partition on every new machine I have. On Fri, May 1, 2020, 23:50 Raphael MD wrote: > Hello! > > Could I turn my Linux swap off. > I have 32 GB of RAM memory, I suppose my system don=E2=80=99t need swap, = because > I=E2=80=99vea lot of RAM, is this true? > > Thanks > -- > M.S. Raphael Mejias Dias > =E2=80=8BNuclear Engineer | Reactors > > Secure e-mail: raphael.mejias.dias@protonmail.com > PGP Key for raphaxx@gmail.com: > https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=3Dget&search=3D0x87BC5A746072F951 > --000000000000c98f8b05a4b341c5 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I want to say that it really depends on this:
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- What do you do on your syste= m (what applications do you use, what DE, how is your production ram-hungry= , maybe it is some large application that you're contributing on)
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- How do you do things on your system (shutting down mach= ine every day or suspending it with 1-2 months+ uptime, using only apps you= need or leaving plenty of them running in the background, cleaning out tab= s in your browser or leaving them always opened in case you need them)
- You're using hibernation (if so, you definitely ne= ed swap large enough to contain the whole contents of your ram)
- Your expectations of the need in swap in the next couple of y= ears (and you really SHOULD expect this. Personally I considered recently t= hat 4 GB is enough for all my needs and now I don't know how to even br= owse the modern internet with it). You can have a swap in this case for the= future. Or if your system will live for couple of years without reinstalla= tion you'll consider that you need swap, so you'll repartition your= drive, maybe it'll get full of data to this time and you need to clean= it up first, maybe you'll need to backup your data before repartitioni= ng, and so on... It might take a long time in the future.

The first time I heard the "oh, you = don't really need swap now, it's plenty of ram in modern machines&q= uot; was mid-2000s. Back then I had a 512MB RAM machine (you'll not get= modern fancy browser on it!).
And then every 2-3 ye= ars I hear that. But I still end up creating a swap partition on every new = machine I have.


On Fri, May 1, 2020, 23:5= 0 Raphael MD <raphaxx@gmail.com= > wrote:
Hello= !

Could I turn my Linux = swap off.
I have 32 GB of RAM memory, I suppose my s= ystem don=E2=80=99t need swap, because I=E2=80=99vea lot of RAM, is this tr= ue?

Thanks
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M.S. Raphael Mej= ias Dias
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Secure e-mail: raphael.mejias.dias= @protonmail.com
PGP Key for raphaxx@gmail.com: https://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?op=3Dget&sea= rch=3D0x87BC5A746072F951
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