From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RxNPd-0000Zt-F3 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 18:47:38 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E7FE7E0A01; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 18:47:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ey0-f181.google.com (mail-ey0-f181.google.com [209.85.215.181]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B0B64E00E8 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 18:46:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: by eaak14 with SMTP id k14so96499eaa.40 for ; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:46:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=2Fa+xTsaO9BMVnNXig/HUVO/KK/QbZmyFPn3hDFZy0A=; b=M3WFynDs7rnOTDMSv8TpL1uHoUJKm2qJvEOKHbBe5GyKswE9ciI/uKqZjtukkvsirA Guyheee7pPYiVCu5eizgZQ6qs+J+fDWl+cLzhPEwdv5JGq691njJx93kdpPdx0230I/N riWBhecP3/uvEmMvgfYiG9W81Jdafj10Bajac= Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.14.52.131 with SMTP id e3mr6959303eec.108.1329245183825; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:46:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.32.65 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:46:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.14.32.65 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Feb 2012 10:46:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <4FEAA3B3-0A32-4347-9441-C0E3FE3E1F38@gmail.com> References: <4F3A9FAA.9000504@binarywings.net> <4F3AA6C7.4050501@trausch.us> <4FEAA3B3-0A32-4347-9441-C0E3FE3E1F38@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Feb 2012 13:46:23 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] grub vs grub 2 From: Alecks Gates To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba211f2300593d04b8f1036a X-Archives-Salt: f14460a2-6dab-4cbb-9834-98ca62933e46 X-Archives-Hash: 49c51279f344b593ff44ec1433f8d85c --90e6ba211f2300593d04b8f1036a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Feb 14, 2012 1:41 PM, "LK" wrote: > > > On 120214, at 19:24, mike@trausch.us wrote: > > On 02/14/2012 01:08 PM, LK wrote: > >> BTW: So is grub0 still supported by gentoo / maintained by themselves? > >> Does that matter(it is boot, no network stuff) ? > > GRUB Legacy (that is, GRUB versions 0.xx) is still the default in > > Gentoo. In order to use GRUB 2 (that is, GRUB version 1.99 in Portage) > > you'll have to unmask sys-boot/grub-1.99-r2. > The thing is, IMO grub0 is better / simplier. > > > GRUB 2 is significantly more convenient and powerful and does not > > require the nearly 80 patches that the legacy version does in order to > > work properly on the system. It can also manage its own configuration > > file using its new grub-mkconfig (grub2-mkconfig in Gentoo) program, > > which supports the use of scripts/programs to generate grub.cfg entries > > for booting the kernel and other operating systems. > As you read above, I prefer grub0.* because it has config files, not > commands which will automize it. For ubuntu I can understand that, > but configuring boot is too simple to require automisation. When > now automatic script fails, is there a way to do it by hand? Ubuntu > disallows editing it by hand. Now I am confused by the 80 patches > for legacy grub =( afaik. > > PS: If you know how to get rid of any background image, could you > say how? > > THX + TIA. > > Yes, you can edit the grub2 boot config files by hand, I do this myself in Gentoo (and the last time I used Ubuntu you could still edit them, but that was a while ago). You're not tied to the automation. I prefer grub2 config files, personally. Definitely not as "simple," of course, but that hardly makes a difference to me. --90e6ba211f2300593d04b8f1036a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Feb 14, 2012 1:41 PM, "LK" <linuxrocksrulers@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 120214, at 19:24, mike@trausch.u= s wrote:
> > On 02/14/2012 01:08 PM, LK wrote:
> >> BTW: So is grub0 still supported by gentoo / maintained by th= emselves?
> >> Does that matter(it is boot, no network stuff) ?
> > GRUB Legacy (that is, GRUB versions 0.xx) is still the default in=
> > Gentoo. =A0In order to use GRUB 2 (that is, GRUB version 1.99 in = Portage)
> > you'll have to unmask sys-boot/grub-1.99-r2.
> The thing is, IMO grub0 is better / simplier.
>
> > GRUB 2 is significantly more convenient and powerful and does not=
> > require the nearly 80 patches that the legacy version does in ord= er to
> > work properly on the system. =A0It can also manage its own config= uration
> > file using its new grub-mkconfig (grub2-mkconfig in Gentoo) progr= am,
> > which supports the use of scripts/programs to generate grub.cfg e= ntries
> > for booting the kernel and other operating systems.
> As you read above, I prefer grub0.* because it has config files, not > commands which will automize it. For ubuntu I can understand that,
> but configuring boot is too simple to require automisation. When
> now automatic script fails, is there a way to do it by hand? Ubuntu > disallows editing it by hand. Now I am confused by the 80 patches
> for legacy grub =3D( afaik.
>
> PS: If you know how to get rid of any background image, could you
> say how?
>
> THX + TIA.
>
>
Yes, you can edit the grub2 boot config files by hand, I do this myself in = Gentoo (and the last time I used Ubuntu you could still edit them, but that= was a while ago).=A0 You're not tied to the automation.=A0 I prefer gr= ub2 config files, personally.=A0 Definitely not as "simple," of c= ourse, but that hardly makes a difference to me.

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