From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8E9531381F3 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:57:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 31BA9E0A83; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:57:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-f53.google.com (mail-wg0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D58ECE0A40 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 13:56:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wg0-f53.google.com with SMTP id y10so643603wgg.8 for ; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 06:56:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=0moJKeVH6CTOT2YLhDOJ1pgL7uYxQs04GLe+uZAtjis=; b=EzK5WbWQy2LnUR5/yx1dhLU7cSHrqkWVsLRlSdzCxWsG8z7ubz0fVdObG0zsVFhvtz YSNDuukPBJ+Rte2LWaXu94YeLHVT4kIo9hrOQ2BQoCOBNF3Ei5u6kSbXg1EzscHPmxqZ pbFeHEiDIszlUC5A5gQ0jXN4SeGLFwifH+wxpBq9BsFVipp7ZjlAhjCf2rkKyu+XnsNV IhlKkihamRUkuKdnUhF8dKvg6c6bQvcCqbGA14wocBoPEoYYjYJzbXYPZ1PGRx9//SF9 j0VB1Q8DdcP4U0bFdNjN/OCIP/X9/1B8r3KVfmftt+45VATv5T7ONDjEOOJIx8L735qy +RDg== Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.96.73 with SMTP id dq9mr1236031wib.51.1373983017548; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 06:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.87.227 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 06:56:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.87.227 with HTTP; Tue, 16 Jul 2013 06:56:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87y596sjgp.fsf@nyu.edu> References: <87y596sjgp.fsf@nyu.edu> Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 21:56:57 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Networkmanager and gnome-3.6 (negating a default USE) From: Wang Xuerui To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04462e9ab0400f04e1a15943 X-Archives-Salt: 1970d460-7f92-4493-9ec4-eda098dfa16f X-Archives-Hash: 2597ca76b9e4404c113bb6f833f55e08 --f46d04462e9ab0400f04e1a15943 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =E5=9C=A8 2013-7-16 =E4=B8=8B=E5=8D=889:50=EF=BC=8C =E5= =86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A > > (This is not a msg about networkmanager's quality.) > > My main system is ~amd64 and runs gnome-3.6. > > I wanted to experiment with removing networkmanager. > I do not have networkmanager in world and did not have it in make.conf. > However gnome-3.6 by default pulls it in. For example > gnome-control-center-3.6.3-r1.ebuild contains > > IUSE=3D"+bluetooth +colord +cups +gnome-online-accounts +i18n > input_devices_wacom kerberos +networkmanager +socialweb systemd v4l" > > and > > COMMON_DEPEND=3D" > ... > networkmanager? ( > >=3Dgnome-extra/nm-applet-0.9.1.90 > >=3Dnet-misc/networkmanager-0.8.997 ) > > I believe the first says that "if the networkmanager use flag is neither > set nor unset, treat it as set" and the second says > "if the use flag is set (or treated as set), require > net-misc/networkmanager". > > I don't see how to have the flag "unset" since its default is "set". > For example, editing make.conf to add > > USE=3D"-networkmanager" > > (I had no USE in make.conf previously) has no effect > since networkmanager was not in USE before. > > How do I specify that the networkmanager USE flag is explicitly unset > (rather than just "not explicitly set"). > > thanks, > allan > Just write a package.use file to handle that. --f46d04462e9ab0400f04e1a15943 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

=E5=9C=A8 2013-7-16 =E4=B8=8B=E5=8D=889:50=EF=BC=8C <gottlieb@nyu.edu>=E5=86=99=E9=81=93= =EF=BC=9A
>
> (This is not a msg about networkmanager's quality.)
>
> My main system is ~amd64 and runs gnome-3.6.
>
> I wanted to experiment with removing networkmanager.
> I do not have networkmanager in world and did not have it in make.conf= .
> However gnome-3.6 by default pulls it in. =C2=A0For example
> gnome-control-center-3.6.3-r1.ebuild contains
>
> =C2=A0 IUSE=3D"+bluetooth +colord +cups +gnome-online-accounts +i= 18n
> =C2=A0 input_devices_wacom kerberos +networkmanager +socialweb systemd= v4l"
>
> and
>
> =C2=A0 COMMON_DEPEND=3D"
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 ...
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 networkmanager? (
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >=3Dgnome-extra/nm-applet-0.9.1.90
> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 >=3Dnet-misc/networkmanager-0.8.997 )
>
> I believe the first says that "if the networkmanager use flag is = neither
> set nor unset, treat it as set" and the second says
> "if the use flag is set (or treated as set), require
> net-misc/networkmanager".
>
> I don't see how to have the flag "unset" since its defau= lt is "set".
> For example, editing make.conf to add
>
> =C2=A0 USE=3D"-networkmanager"
>
> (I had no USE in make.conf previously) has no effect
> since networkmanager was not in USE before.
>
> How do I specify that the networkmanager USE flag is explicitly unset<= br> > (rather than just "not explicitly set").
>
> thanks,
> allan
>

Just write a package.use file to handle that.

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