From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E33E31396D0 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2017 02:20:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE1DEE0DC2; Fri, 8 Sep 2017 02:20:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yw0-x241.google.com (mail-yw0-x241.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c05::241]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8F41CE0D35 for ; Fri, 8 Sep 2017 02:20:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yw0-x241.google.com with SMTP id s128so770018yws.2 for ; Thu, 07 Sep 2017 19:20:05 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=MS0zhJYuIrW98LyiabwaKDCptFHAR+gMnIbSZotO2sc=; b=iUpZC+lU0eJgtY1l19e/ohHC5yF+L+uVJfvXOrwvU2gazmVWgQKCGDYewEOuTI+6xH LK1nZV2WVuVqsw1iW9DhwtRB4eh3hsv0WWXQFpF4iVA7toADZLk23MWeijM1NsvSe17+ awRRBKzBdbhqqVS3LG3XK3prx3ONY67FsllcJqg5qXpoHBw+tANh9buXuJAee9zLLsau 9/14X3qJGnKpFj7FRqbUEPT9RTshmSSJuBj0AziEpzPW2upJf1mOeHcbrr8QOXzIMfIE 7RPFG/kUXCa5Ou1V+hYIEcwnM19mCSL/d8/NLPJvlAzM8I+1C7+SBXhk4+eNBQJGwTsI k+Kg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=MS0zhJYuIrW98LyiabwaKDCptFHAR+gMnIbSZotO2sc=; b=JUC8NVjprvlZlXC+P8GJqzpZDAykyQLVtLsbZXRifH0TjFEK6I43f2GZCEB0JYhIVY vTan+IA49zVyX0qzp+UFStH8FpNZDVWlZO7DZkdw48RnQR5hb4+Cj9kJhyPjoJussfii tqO20EZYngrYZpGCYREFWtIeZCeNtNMcO26twKxTSb7UH6V7OY2jLvQYPorwAYjZeVaG g/ZBghTQRxWBYrxCon67UwNU4UUzAFFjiHZwuxhnrjL7tiTSMnWITxRWC4Ab7wMpyvCn 6F7dHAOreHhoGbWtqcGYKHE7/nHi7gsOsYCt7xo/MJhE9/sqclPlaeEGU7ILLUXdq00d D/9w== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUgbLEtcbHFzpvkJMZHgC8GEC78es7uIM72KgEL+SmpCu6roQNVV f7BeoXAwJrmJ3X2CHHW1xzFiykFRCw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AOwi7QCPnu5UiyfX0jFZS0XZ3h8Ea5B0E11NtIfjQie2EiAxbswVyIdMCL8zALJiQeCfAa5qmyJo0HOcfTYCNOQt3ZU= X-Received: by 10.37.107.69 with SMTP id o5mr1234659ybm.174.1504837204163; Thu, 07 Sep 2017 19:20:04 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.129.211.10 with HTTP; Thu, 7 Sep 2017 19:20:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <874lse3ry0.fsf@gmail.com> References: <87a8264rvb.fsf@gmail.com> <874lse3ry0.fsf@gmail.com> From: R0b0t1 Date: Thu, 7 Sep 2017 21:20:03 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] What do you think about Firefox 57? To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: 8e76f899-8d2f-450a-806f-587967ec6d92 X-Archives-Hash: de9d5effb0334ddc0b01d6b68fe43d00 On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 8:22 PM, Danny YUE wrote: > > On 2017-09-08 00:48, Adam Carter wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 7, 2017 at 10:26 PM, Danny YUE wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I have been using FoxyProxy in Firefox for a really long time, until >>> today I found its new version really sucks. >>> >>> Then I read the comment from author who declared that the old version >>> can *only* be used before (roughly) end of 2017 before Firefox 57 and in >>> new version some features must perish. >>> >> >> I am assuming that most actively developed addons will be updated before 57 >> drops, so the transition wont be too painful. Is the issue you're having >> with FoxyProxy related to it relying on features that are no longer >> available under the new framework? > > Yes. The FoxyProxy author declared that some features are no long > available under the new framework. > I am really depressed about it because I just use that plugin every time > I use Firefox. > > >> This update will break my favorite extension, Vimperator. I am already >> looking at replacements for Firefox due to this. So far I have found >> qutebrowser which isn't really as featureful. >> >> R0b0t1. > > I am using Keysnail, no idea whether or not it will be deprecated. > > If the features I want are blocked by the new framework, I'm afraid I > would lock the version (fortunately it's Gentoo) for a long time, until > I find replacement for plugins, or even Firefox... > I saw some people talking about creating a non-Mozilla LTS Firefox version. I'm not sure how well that will work but I wish them luck. In the case of Vimperator, it looks like a lot of the breaking changes revolve around what you can and can't do to the UI. I run Vimperator with 'gui="none,tabs"' which is something worth looking up if you haven't seen it. Keysnail looks nice but it seems like it doesn't modify the GUI. There's a few Vim inspired addons for Firefox, but none of them are as comprehensive as Vimperator. There's a lot of Vim mimicry that I'm not even aware of in the addon, it's extremely comprehensive. Thanks for the suggestion, R0b0t1.