From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D1D9138206 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2017 20:33:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A35CE08D6; Sun, 31 Dec 2017 20:33:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-yb0-x236.google.com (mail-yb0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4002:c09::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D86DAE08AA for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2017 20:33:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-yb0-x236.google.com with SMTP id j7so25336950ybl.3 for ; Sun, 31 Dec 2017 12:33:06 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=1kNZtHHoEftHBVwr//4mAgt+Q7UYDseMby0oB3G+lLA=; b=T24n4vBrgOl4owZDLVuStu8JELut/xy9xzJ8qhAaNh+ptfSeCEPAuZwaHPZmpijYSl itcgwAf3GpDfDzj5R/4DjzgXW27+No+2CYjKGWh4Gh8UJqeNW/sypa53epOCwmdXIGGU hyv3pzmQOJS8PscvTIcCY0+8Ilz2HTOJHQc4m21lEoIk0oVQY/eFtuxSB4gSW+CW4vEo L56bXqfTQ41Ih5Gwdin8KrpHN/mML07t5FYrzDfyN0VHz8DERb+03UFrsq1WjBG1kjG/ Jh3JVOfq7tXtDszi/l7Q9KfloFX9rMi88eOsVKdCvjYslrJtw0VbFBazmDAkzLgH5K0T 9Jew== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=1kNZtHHoEftHBVwr//4mAgt+Q7UYDseMby0oB3G+lLA=; b=nDfBAPFlYHDFwtrV7MlFkuaGYHFotQOoCFtGRC9DnStDgkE2OPqr9bqV00i2b6lu+3 NmKhtHJPTIGMtmQIpOqwusEl/L9nH0JRWhT0ar1Ymvi+43+UuFNvlkUyDq6c+jWYJMN4 CFrFMbNjNn3NA36XsW3LNdnqSd7JsMIbrthJq7BQgMeRCWuUcRP+Lg7gGdKhDyxenuUC VP5CPp4bvsAuTHuqQDJJDiF61MaJRGpPr84S5kTOuFLaDq8tOsf0P66z5hPBCtxv1/al W4g/75pnc88hym7ojhBwYX0xX9HH13aKcQTc48N3X7kTvkRAtJcrvqiKcKNhMyKkpsJg 6Gbg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mL5ME4GMurgmsN4iePWTMQidfC7JFk9IK+cZl3AZGEpxE75wMEZ 4QWbJwZVar6Ak79WiS10QGsnex+nBv58OYCl0dk= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBotNfuo+j5Nrj/FHsMw7VRbF/oNDiS95btZ6SD5XNXZCO6TGfjsFle4NShHZRaDZnNdfkVOtNsr5Q/9j9QvxSD8= X-Received: by 10.37.39.132 with SMTP id n126mr27554722ybn.180.1514752385541; Sun, 31 Dec 2017 12:33:05 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.129.157.2 with HTTP; Sun, 31 Dec 2017 12:33:04 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <7f65e9ee-d1b5-fc0e-b6cb-1d02827486b7@sys-concept.com> From: R0b0t1 Date: Sun, 31 Dec 2017 14:33:04 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Running Gentoo in VirtualBox To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Archives-Salt: 817bec36-5f58-4289-8161-624bafe2a202 X-Archives-Hash: 7e3283f1be5f5379450b999dacabfcdc On Sun, Dec 31, 2017 at 2:13 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > On 31/12/2017 21:40, thelma@sys-concept.com wrote: >> I'm using Gentoo as a server (so it runs 24/7) Apache, Asterisk, Hylafax >> etc. >> >> What are my chances to run Gentoo as a VirtualBox? >> >> Installing Gentoo takes me 2-3 days (basic setup min., I don't do it >> every month so I have to go through Gentoo handbook); to configure it >> the way I want it takes another week or two. >> >> So I was thinking, if I run Windows 10 and configure Gentoo as a >> virtual box it might be easier to transfer it from one system to >> another, in case there is a HD failure (like it just happened to me >> yesterday). >> >> Any input will be appreciated. >> I know I might have problem with Serial port and receiving faxes via >> HylaFax as they are time sensitive. >> > > Virtualization here will not solve your risk or effort exposure. It will > increase it. > I agree: this way lies pain. Firstly, if you must use Windows, I highly recommend using Hyper-V over VirtualBox or VMWare/ESXi. It is free and has better hardware configuration support. Secondly, the backup scheme you are wanting to implement is easier and more robustly done with LVM. Even if you don't want to deal with that, rsync over SSH is secure and easy to set up. More complicated solutions like BorgBackup may ultimately be the most appropriate. Thirdly, save your configuration files so you do not need to reread the documentation each time you install a system. Look at Gentoo stage 4 tarballs and programs like Ansible or Puppet. You might also consider running Debian. Gentoo is nice, but not necessary or even suitable for every use case. Cheers, R0b0t1