From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1SSINd-00076a-CF for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 10 May 2012 01:41:21 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E5B50E07D8; Thu, 10 May 2012 01:41:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from svr-us4.tirtonadi.com (svr-us4.tirtonadi.com [69.65.43.212]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E4D61E07C0 for ; Thu, 10 May 2012 01:39:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vb0-f53.google.com ([209.85.212.53]) by svr-us4.tirtonadi.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SSILy-001yDA-2U for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Thu, 10 May 2012 08:39:38 +0700 Received: by vbbfc26 with SMTP id fc26so1204910vbb.40 for ; Wed, 09 May 2012 18:39:34 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.67.11 with SMTP id j11mr1035147vdt.132.1336613974405; Wed, 09 May 2012 18:39:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.81.202 with HTTP; Wed, 9 May 2012 18:39:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.220.81.202 with HTTP; Wed, 9 May 2012 18:39:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4FAB0291.5050602@gmail.com> References: <4FAA2F0D.8080900@gmail.com> <20120509112543.6021e1f8@khamul.example.com> <4FAA3E79.5010007@gmail.com> <20120509232806.495276ed@khamul.example.com> <4FAAEEB4.6090800@gmail.com> <4FAB0291.5050602@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2012 08:39:34 +0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Are those "green" drives any good? From: Pandu Poluan To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f359225707f04bfa4b110 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - svr-us4.tirtonadi.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.gentoo.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - poluan.info X-Archives-Salt: 4a55cd72-d811-48fe-b478-06202452014a X-Archives-Hash: eee8cf1b1c2b1330305b4bb7151b7326 --20cf307f359225707f04bfa4b110 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On May 10, 2012 6:54 AM, "Dale" wrote: > > Paul Hartman wrote: > > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Dale wrote: > >> It doesn't matter what brand you go with > > > > Especially true since there are only 2 companies actually making > > consumer hard drives anymore: WD and Seagate. Both of them seem to > > know what they are doing, for the most part... > > > > Some hard drives fail at the beginning of their life. All hard drives > > fail at the end of their life. :) > > > > > > > I'm about to show my age so please close your eyes. Pretty please. -_- > > Way back in the stone age, there was a guy that released a curve for > electronics life. The failure rate is high at the beginning, especially > for the first few minutes, then falls to about nothing, then after > several years it goes back up again. At the beginning of the curve, the > thought was it could be a bad solder job, bad components or some other > problem. At the other end was just when age kicked in. Sweat spot is > in the middle. > > I try to keep these things in mind. Example. I bought a TV a couple > years ago. My old TV was about 20 years old and the power supply had > some sort of issue. It was either a diode getting weak or a capacitor > was going bad. It had the little sine waves going up the screen. It > was hard to see but was visible when the screen was all the same colour. > Age was creeping up on this thing. > > Anyway, when my DirecTv box went out, it was years old too, I went to > get me a new one. While there I saw this nice LCD TV sitting on a shelf > and I might add, it looked so lonesome. lol It was marked down about > half price. Hmmm, was it repaired or what? I asked a guy what the deal > was. He said it was their display model. My first thought was that > this could have already went through the first part of the curve. So, I > asked how long it was on display. He said about 9 or 10 months. He > thinks I am buying used and I'm thinking that this thing has already > went through the bad part of its life. > > I walked out with a $800 TV for about $400. I think I got the better > deal myself. > Heeey, that's a good point! Now I know that buying display units might be the best deal. Thanks, again! I'll now be keeping an eye open for such deals ;-) Rgds, --20cf307f359225707f04bfa4b110 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On May 10, 2012 6:54 AM, "Dale" <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Paul Hartman wrote:
> > On Wed, May 9, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> =C2=A0It doesn't matter what brand you go with
> >
> > Especially true since there are only 2 companies actually making<= br> > > consumer hard drives anymore: WD and Seagate. Both of them seem t= o
> > know what they are doing, for the most part...
> >
> > Some hard drives fail at the beginning of their life. All hard dr= ives
> > fail at the end of their life. :)
> >
> >
>
>
> I'm about to show my age so please close your eyes. =C2=A0Pretty p= lease. =C2=A0-_-
>
> Way back in the stone age, there was a guy that released a curve for > electronics life. =C2=A0The failure rate is high at the beginning, esp= ecially
> for the first few minutes, then falls to about nothing, then after
> several years it goes back up again. =C2=A0At the beginning of the cur= ve, the
> thought was it could be a bad solder job, bad components or some other=
> problem. =C2=A0At the other end was just when age kicked in. =C2=A0Swe= at spot is
> in the middle.
>
> I try to keep these things in mind. =C2=A0Example. =C2=A0I bought a TV= a couple
> years ago. =C2=A0My old TV was about 20 years old and the power supply= had
> some sort of issue. =C2=A0It was either a diode getting weak or a capa= citor
> was going bad. =C2=A0It had the little sine waves going up the screen.= =C2=A0It
> was hard to see but was visible when the screen was all the same colou= r.
> =C2=A0Age was creeping up on this thing.
>
> Anyway, when my DirecTv box went out, it was years old too, I went to<= br> > get me a new one. =C2=A0While there I saw this nice LCD TV sitting on = a shelf
> and I might add, it looked so lonesome. =C2=A0lol =C2=A0It was marked = down about
> half price. =C2=A0Hmmm, was it repaired or what? =C2=A0I asked a guy w= hat the deal
> was. =C2=A0He said it was their display model. =C2=A0My first thought = was that
> this could have already went through the first part of the curve. =C2= =A0So, I
> asked how long it was on display. =C2=A0He said about 9 or 10 months. = =C2=A0He
> thinks I am buying used and I'm thinking that this thing has alrea= dy
> went through the bad part of its life.
>
> I walked out with a $800 TV for about $400. =C2=A0I think I got the be= tter
> deal myself.
>

Heeey, that's a good point! Now I know that buying display units mig= ht be the best deal.

Thanks, again! I'll now be keeping an eye open for such deals ;-)

Rgds,

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