[gentoo-user] emerge --depclean: !!! sys-apps/less is part of your system

[gentoo-user] emerge --depclean: !!! sys-apps/less is part of your system

[Jarry]

Hi,

after updating my system I tried "emerge --depclean as
recommended by portage, and I received this warning:
------
Calculating dependencies... done!
>>> Calculating removal order...
!!! 'sys-apps/less' (virtual/pager) is part of your system profile.
!!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system.
------

Why does portage want to unmerge sys-apps/less when it is
a part of system?

Jarry

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean: !!! sys-apps/less is part of your system

[Mark Knecht]

On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Jarry <mr.jarry@gmail.com> wrote:
<SNIP>
>
> Why does portage want to unmerge sys-apps/less when it is
> a part of system?
>
> Jarry

I didn't like it either so I've been adding it to
/var/lib/portage/world just to stop it. I've seen this on one machine
or another for 6 months to a year I think.

- Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean: !!! sys-apps/less is part of your system

[Jarry]

On 22-Dec-11 19:38, Mark Knecht wrote:
>>
>> Why does portage want to unmerge sys-apps/less when it is
>> a part of system?
>
> I didn't like it either so I've been adding it to
> /var/lib/portage/world just to stop it. I've seen this on one machine
> or another for 6 months to a year I think.

Some time ago emerge wanted to uninstall "nano" - part of system.
Now "less". I just tried to update one more comp, and guess what?

# emerge --depclean
Calculating dependencies... done!
 >>> Calculating removal order...

!!! 'sys-fs/udev' (virtual/dev-manager) is part of your system profile.
!!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system.

 >>> Waiting 10 seconds before starting...
 >>> (Control-C to abort)...
Press Ctrl-C to Stop in:  10 9

LOL, what the hell is going on? Porgage went crazy or what?

Jarry

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean: !!! sys-apps/less is part of your system

[Alan McKinnon]

On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 19:58:32 +0100
Jarry <mr.jarry@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 22-Dec-11 19:38, Mark Knecht wrote:
> >>
> >> Why does portage want to unmerge sys-apps/less when it is
> >> a part of system?
> >
> > I didn't like it either so I've been adding it to
> > /var/lib/portage/world just to stop it. I've seen this on one
> > machine or another for 6 months to a year I think.
> 
> Some time ago emerge wanted to uninstall "nano" - part of system.
> Now "less". I just tried to update one more comp, and guess what?
> 
> # emerge --depclean
> Calculating dependencies... done!
>  >>> Calculating removal order...
> 
> !!! 'sys-fs/udev' (virtual/dev-manager) is part of your system
> profile. !!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system.
> 
>  >>> Waiting 10 seconds before starting...
>  >>> (Control-C to abort)...
> Press Ctrl-C to Stop in:  10 9
> 
> LOL, what the hell is going on? Porgage went crazy or what?

This has been in unstable for many months now. Basically there's now a
virtual for $EDITOR and $PAGER so you can pick the one you want. If you
don't pick one, portage will take the default and --depclean is likely
to remove the others that are not in world.

This was all discussed to death months ago :-)

Just add your editor and pager of choice to world and continue as
normal. It's not a big issue - you already know you want less and have
no intention of removing it, so just add it like any other package.



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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean: !!! sys-apps/less is part of your system

[Mick]

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On Thursday 22 Dec 2011 19:07:02 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 19:58:32 +0100
> 
> Jarry <mr.jarry@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 22-Dec-11 19:38, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > >> Why does portage want to unmerge sys-apps/less when it is
> > >> a part of system?
> > > 
> > > I didn't like it either so I've been adding it to
> > > /var/lib/portage/world just to stop it. I've seen this on one
> > > machine or another for 6 months to a year I think.
> > 
> > Some time ago emerge wanted to uninstall "nano" - part of system.
> > Now "less". I just tried to update one more comp, and guess what?
> > 
> > # emerge --depclean
> > Calculating dependencies... done!
> > 
> >  >>> Calculating removal order...
> > 
> > !!! 'sys-fs/udev' (virtual/dev-manager) is part of your system
> > profile. !!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system.
> > 
> >  >>> Waiting 10 seconds before starting...
> >  >>> (Control-C to abort)...
> > 
> > Press Ctrl-C to Stop in:  10 9
> > 
> > LOL, what the hell is going on? Porgage went crazy or what?
> 
> This has been in unstable for many months now. Basically there's now a
> virtual for $EDITOR and $PAGER so you can pick the one you want. If you
> don't pick one, portage will take the default and --depclean is likely
> to remove the others that are not in world.
> 
> This was all discussed to death months ago :-)
> 
> Just add your editor and pager of choice to world and continue as
> normal. It's not a big issue - you already know you want less and have
> no intention of removing it, so just add it like any other package.

$ cat /etc/env.d/99editor 
# Configuration file for eselect
# This file has been automatically generated.
EDITOR="/usr/bin/vi"

You could replace for nano, or indeed add both in world file.  Ditto for pager 
(more/less/most, etc).

I'm not sure about the udev message though.
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean: !!! sys-apps/less is part of your system

[Pandu Poluan]

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On Dec 23, 2011 2:42 AM, "Mick" <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Thursday 22 Dec 2011 19:07:02 Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On Thu, 22 Dec 2011 19:58:32 +0100
> >
> > Jarry <mr.jarry@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 22-Dec-11 19:38, Mark Knecht wrote:
> > > >> Why does portage want to unmerge sys-apps/less when it is
> > > >> a part of system?
> > > >
> > > > I didn't like it either so I've been adding it to
> > > > /var/lib/portage/world just to stop it. I've seen this on one
> > > > machine or another for 6 months to a year I think.
> > >
> > > Some time ago emerge wanted to uninstall "nano" - part of system.
> > > Now "less". I just tried to update one more comp, and guess what?
> > >
> > > # emerge --depclean
> > > Calculating dependencies... done!
> > >
> > >  >>> Calculating removal order...
> > >
> > > !!! 'sys-fs/udev' (virtual/dev-manager) is part of your system
> > > profile. !!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system.
> > >
> > >  >>> Waiting 10 seconds before starting...
> > >  >>> (Control-C to abort)...
> > >
> > > Press Ctrl-C to Stop in:  10 9
> > >
> > > LOL, what the hell is going on? Porgage went crazy or what?
> >
> > This has been in unstable for many months now. Basically there's now a
> > virtual for $EDITOR and $PAGER so you can pick the one you want. If you
> > don't pick one, portage will take the default and --depclean is likely
> > to remove the others that are not in world.
> >
> > This was all discussed to death months ago :-)
> >
> > Just add your editor and pager of choice to world and continue as
> > normal. It's not a big issue - you already know you want less and have
> > no intention of removing it, so just add it like any other package.
>
> $ cat /etc/env.d/99editor
> # Configuration file for eselect
> # This file has been automatically generated.
> EDITOR="/usr/bin/vi"
>
> You could replace for nano, or indeed add both in world file.  Ditto for
pager
> (more/less/most, etc).
>

'eselect pager list' and 'eselect editor list' will show what alternatives
are available (with a write-in candidate support).

Rgds,

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean: !!! sys-apps/less is part of your system

[Jarry]

On 23-Dec-11 2:12, Pandu Poluan wrote:
>
> 'eselect pager list' and 'eselect editor list' will show what
> alternatives are available (with a write-in candidate support).

# eselect pager show
PAGER variable in profile:
   /usr/bin/less

# more /etc/env.d/99pager
# Configuration file for eselect
# This file has been automatically generated.
PAGER="/usr/bin/less"

  # env | grep PAGER
PAGER=/usr/bin/less

emerge --depclean
Calculating dependencies... done!
 >>> Calculating removal order...
!!! 'sys-apps/less' (virtual/pager) is part of your system profile.
!!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system.
 >>> Waiting 10 seconds before starting...
 >>> (Control-C to abort)...
Press Ctrl-C to Stop in:  10 9 8

I have "less" set as my pager, and despite of that portage
wants to uninstall it. What am I missing?

Jarry

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean: !!! sys-apps/less is part of your system

[Alan McKinnon]

On Fri, 23 Dec 2011 08:43:33 +0100
Jarry <mr.jarry@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 23-Dec-11 2:12, Pandu Poluan wrote:
> >
> > 'eselect pager list' and 'eselect editor list' will show what
> > alternatives are available (with a write-in candidate support).
> 
> # eselect pager show
> PAGER variable in profile:
>    /usr/bin/less
> 
> # more /etc/env.d/99pager
> # Configuration file for eselect
> # This file has been automatically generated.
> PAGER="/usr/bin/less"
> 
>   # env | grep PAGER
> PAGER=/usr/bin/less
> 
> emerge --depclean
> Calculating dependencies... done!
>  >>> Calculating removal order...
> !!! 'sys-apps/less' (virtual/pager) is part of your system profile.
> !!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system.
>  >>> Waiting 10 seconds before starting...
>  >>> (Control-C to abort)...
> Press Ctrl-C to Stop in:  10 9 8
> 
> I have "less" set as my pager, and despite of that portage
> wants to uninstall it. What am I missing?

It's not in world.



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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean: !!! sys-apps/less is part of your system

[Jarry]

On 23-Dec-11 8:47, Alan McKinnon wrote:
>>
>> # eselect pager show
>> PAGER variable in profile:
>>     /usr/bin/less
>>
>> emerge --depclean
>> Calculating dependencies... done!
>>   >>>  Calculating removal order...
>> !!! 'sys-apps/less' (virtual/pager) is part of your system profile.
>> !!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system.
>>   >>>  Waiting 10 seconds before starting...
>>   >>>  (Control-C to abort)...
>> Press Ctrl-C to Stop in:  10 9 8
>>
>> I have "less" set as my pager, and despite of that portage
>> wants to uninstall it. What am I missing?
>
> It's not in world.

But it was the same in the last week, and yet portage could
live with it. Why it suddenly wants to uninstall something
that is part of system profile? And at the same time it says
it might damage my system. Really nice...

Honestly, I do not understand this at all. Things worked for
years, now suddenly cause problems, and we call it "progress".
What is going to be it tomorrow? bash, tar, or grep?

Jarry
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean: !!! sys-apps/less is part of your system

[John Campbell]

On 12/23/2011 12:33 AM, Jarry wrote:

> But it was the same in the last week, and yet portage could
> live with it. Why it suddenly wants to uninstall something
> that is part of system profile? And at the same time it says
> it might damage my system. Really nice...

I believe the base, default pager is actually "more" from 
sys-apps/util-linux not sys-apps/less.  Thus when the last program on 
your system to require sys-apps/less directly migrated to requiring 
virtual/pager it fell back to "more."

> Honestly, I do not understand this at all. Things worked for
> years, now suddenly cause problems, and we call it "progress".
> What is going to be it tomorrow? bash, tar, or grep?

Bash, sure, in time.  After all, Bash is a replacement for "sh" and 
there are a lot of alternative shells available.  Wasn't there that push 
to make all scripts work with ash?

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --depclean: !!! sys-apps/less is part of your system

[Denis Buzdalov]

Because eselect's setting of pager does not correlate with emerge's
world file. You should add less to the world file e.g. by running
"emerge --noreplace less".

2011/12/23 Jarry <mr.jarry@gmail.com>:
> On 23-Dec-11 2:12, Pandu Poluan wrote:
>>
>>
>> 'eselect pager list' and 'eselect editor list' will show what
>> alternatives are available (with a write-in candidate support).
>
>
> # eselect pager show
> PAGER variable in profile:
>  /usr/bin/less
>
> # more /etc/env.d/99pager
>
> # Configuration file for eselect
> # This file has been automatically generated.
> PAGER="/usr/bin/less"
>
>  # env | grep PAGER
> PAGER=/usr/bin/less
>
>
> emerge --depclean
> Calculating dependencies... done!
>>>> Calculating removal order...
> !!! 'sys-apps/less' (virtual/pager) is part of your system profile.
>
> !!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system.
>>>> Waiting 10 seconds before starting...
>>>> (Control-C to abort)...
> Press Ctrl-C to Stop in:  10 9 8
>
> I have "less" set as my pager, and despite of that portage
> wants to uninstall it. What am I missing?
>
> Jarry
>
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