From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Qum6c-0002T6-6s for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 14:00:58 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 568E621C253; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 14:00:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from svr-us4.tirtonadi.com (unknown [69.65.43.212]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D5E6821C239 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 13:58:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-fx0-f53.google.com ([209.85.161.53]) by svr-us4.tirtonadi.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Qum4h-0039cl-BB for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 20:58:59 +0700 Received: by fxd23 with SMTP id 23so3024132fxd.40 for ; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 06:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.62.82 with SMTP id w18mr815902fah.121.1313848733652; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 06:58:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.96.11 with HTTP; Sat, 20 Aug 2011 06:58:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <201108201429.17095.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> References: <201108191109.34984.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <4E4F74D2.3090809@gmail.com> <20110820135942.23794f5d@memphis.local> <201108201429.17095.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 20 Aug 2011 20:58:53 +0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot From: Pandu Poluan To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - svr-us4.tirtonadi.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.gentoo.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - poluan.info X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 4fa07674cb4ca7e431f3c6cbf6dead02 Welllll... ... the Gentoo project can always fork e2fsprogs ... ... but who will maintain it, then? Rgds, On 2011-08-20, Mick wrote: > On Saturday 20 Aug 2011 13:59:42 David W Noon wrote: >> On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 03:48:18 -0500, Dale wrote about "Re: >> [gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot": >> >> [snip] >> >> >I wish you could convince the devs of that. I already have /var on >> >its own and was planning to put /usr on its own. I'm not now tho. >> >Looks like /, /boot, /home and that's it for the OS part. It >> >downright sucks. >> >> I have also been following the discussion on gentoo-dev, although I >> currently only lurk there. I was going to register and post with a >> suggestion that everything should be on the root partition; that way we >> could rename it C: and be compliant with the "industry standard". >> >> However, it gets worse: one cannot safely fsck a partition or logical >> volume once it has been mounted. As things currently stand, there are >> no statically linked fsck modules for ext2/3/4, as static linkage was >> dropped from e2fsprogs about 3 years ago. This means for fsck to run >> inside an initramfs or intrd, the image will have to contain glibc, >> libpthread and a whole slew of other large libraries in order to run >> e2fsck with dynamic linkage. The initramfs will end up being *many* >> times larger than the kernel itself. [On my systems, the vmlinuz file >> is only about 1.8 megs, and glibc alone makes that look really puny.] >> >> Welcome to progress. > > This is madness. Is there anything we can do to stop it? > -- > Regards, > Mick > -- -- Pandu E Poluan - IT Optimizer My website: http://pandu.poluan.info/