From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-132143-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1RYFSj-0006kQ-Vp for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 11:14:58 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4982221C2EA; Wed, 7 Dec 2011 11:14:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from svr-us4.tirtonadi.com (svr-us4.tirtonadi.com [69.65.43.212]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6079A21C268 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 7 Dec 2011 11:13:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com ([74.125.82.53]) by svr-us4.tirtonadi.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-MD5:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <pandu@poluan.info>) id 1RYFRI-003PXv-LL for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 18:13:28 +0700 Received: by wgbds1 with SMTP id ds1so938069wgb.10 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 03:13:22 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.227.203.10 with SMTP id fg10mr14815096wbb.1.1323256402815; Wed, 07 Dec 2011 03:13:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.103.70 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Dec 2011 03:13:22 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.223.103.70 with HTTP; Wed, 7 Dec 2011 03:13:22 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20111207105521.2b89d91e@digimed.co.uk> References: <20111203142348.GA17203@gaurahari.merseine.nu> <201112041518.57386.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <20111204204955.3e8d101f@digimed.co.uk> <201112060858.43067.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <20111207091428.0f610c7e@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <jbnevj$fi9$1@dough.gmane.org> <20111207105521.2b89d91e@digimed.co.uk> Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2011 18:13:22 +0700 Message-ID: <CAA2qdGX01kGbwzpVxY5s_ehpLdG0QYu+LYCRzm=8FZdF1ry7qg@mail.gmail.com> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge ignoring -v switch From: Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd59fe0d62a9e04b37ea31c X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - svr-us4.tirtonadi.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.gentoo.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - poluan.info X-Archives-Salt: 72df53aa-5bed-46a6-84bb-b01d689faebf X-Archives-Hash: 44f2f446164408ef528f44f8a52d1974 --000e0cd59fe0d62a9e04b37ea31c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Dec 7, 2011 6:00 PM, "Neil Bothwick" <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote: > > On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:26:12 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > > > > Not only did I mean to finish it, I thought I had. Using --jobs>1 sets > > > the quiet-build flag > > > > It also sets it if you don't use more than 1 job. As another poster > > (Hinnerk) already mentioned, the only way to get the old behavior back > > is to use the "--quiet-build=n" option. > > What I said in the text that disappeared from the original post was that > --jobs has always hidden the gcc output, long before the quiet-build > option appeared. The new option only makes emerge behave the same when > -jobs is not set or set to 1. > Indeed, that change gave me a 'wtf moment' for awhile. I used --jobs, and the one time I purposefully emerge using single job to debug a failure... the output is still MIA. Luckily it wasn't an emergency so I still had the mind to do 'man emerge'. At the very least, such changes that potentially produce a wtf moment should be in the news. I mean, --as-needed has been in the news for quite some time; --quiet-build should also get its own news dispatch. Rgds, --000e0cd59fe0d62a9e04b37ea31c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <p><br> On Dec 7, 2011 6:00 PM, "Neil Bothwick" <<a href=3D"mailto:nei= l@digimed.co.uk">neil@digimed.co.uk</a>> wrote:<br> ><br> > On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:26:12 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:<br> ><br> > > > Not only did I mean to finish it, I thought I had. Using --j= obs>1 sets<br> > > > the quiet-build flag<br> > ><br> > > It also sets it if you don't use more than 1 job. =C2=A0As an= other poster<br> > > (Hinnerk) already mentioned, the only way to get the old behavior= back<br> > > is to use the "--quiet-build=3Dn" option.<br> ><br> > What I said in the text that disappeared from the original post was th= at<br> > --jobs has always hidden the gcc output, long before the quiet-build<b= r> > option appeared. The new option only makes emerge behave the same when= <br> > -jobs is not set or set to 1.<br> ></p> <p>Indeed, that change gave me a 'wtf moment' for awhile. I used --= jobs, and the one time I purposefully emerge using single job to debug a fa= ilure... the output is still MIA. Luckily it wasn't an emergency so I s= till had the mind to do 'man emerge'.</p> <p>At the very least, such changes that potentially produce a wtf moment sh= ould be in the news. I mean, --as-needed has been in the news for quite som= e time; --quiet-build should also get its own news dispatch.</p> <p>Rgds,<br> </p> --000e0cd59fe0d62a9e04b37ea31c--