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On Dec 7, 2011 6:00 PM, "Neil Bothwick" <neil@digimed.co.uk> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:26:12 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>
> > > Not only did I mean to finish it, I thought I had. Using --jobs>1 sets
> > > the quiet-build flag
> >
> > It also sets it if you don't use more than 1 job.  As another poster
> > (Hinnerk) already mentioned, the only way to get the old behavior back
> > is to use the "--quiet-build=n" option.
>
> What I said in the text that disappeared from the original post was that
> --jobs has always hidden the gcc output, long before the quiet-build
> option appeared. The new option only makes emerge behave the same when
> -jobs is not set or set to 1.
>

Indeed, that change gave me a 'wtf moment' for awhile. I used --jobs, and
the one time I purposefully emerge using single job to debug a failure...
the output is still MIA. Luckily it wasn't an emergency so I still had the
mind to do 'man emerge'.

At the very least, such changes that potentially produce a wtf moment
should be in the news. I mean, --as-needed has been in the news for quite
some time; --quiet-build should also get its own news dispatch.

Rgds,

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<p><br>
On Dec 7, 2011 6:00 PM, &quot;Neil Bothwick&quot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:nei=
l@digimed.co.uk">neil@digimed.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Wed, 07 Dec 2011 12:26:12 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Not only did I mean to finish it, I thought I had. Using --j=
obs&gt;1 sets<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; the quiet-build flag<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; It also sets it if you don&#39;t use more than 1 job. =C2=A0As an=
other poster<br>
&gt; &gt; (Hinnerk) already mentioned, the only way to get the old behavior=
 back<br>
&gt; &gt; is to use the &quot;--quiet-build=3Dn&quot; option.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; What I said in the text that disappeared from the original post was th=
at<br>
&gt; --jobs has always hidden the gcc output, long before the quiet-build<b=
r>
&gt; option appeared. The new option only makes emerge behave the same when=
<br>
&gt; -jobs is not set or set to 1.<br>
&gt;</p>
<p>Indeed, that change gave me a &#39;wtf moment&#39; for awhile. I used --=
jobs, and the one time I purposefully emerge using single job to debug a fa=
ilure... the output is still MIA. Luckily it wasn&#39;t an emergency so I s=
till had the mind to do &#39;man emerge&#39;.</p>

<p>At the very least, such changes that potentially produce a wtf moment sh=
ould be in the news. I mean, --as-needed has been in the news for quite som=
e time; --quiet-build should also get its own news dispatch.</p>
<p>Rgds,<br>
</p>

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