From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S185N-0001SC-GL for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 03:14:13 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EBB52E0ED8; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 03:13:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from svr-us4.tirtonadi.com (svr-us4.tirtonadi.com [69.65.43.212]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23E3FE0EAE for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 03:12:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vx0-f181.google.com ([209.85.220.181]) by svr-us4.tirtonadi.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S1844-001TgX-Jq for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:12:52 +0700 Received: by vcbfl10 with SMTP id fl10so2370852vcb.40 for ; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:12:50 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of pandu@poluan.info designates 10.52.29.241 as permitted sender) client-ip=10.52.29.241; Authentication-Results: mr.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of pandu@poluan.info designates 10.52.29.241 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=pandu@poluan.info Received: from mr.google.com ([10.52.29.241]) by 10.52.29.241 with SMTP id n17mr2596859vdh.123.1330139570068 (num_hops = 1); Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:12:50 -0800 (PST) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.52.29.241 with SMTP id n17mr2056676vdh.123.1330139569993; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:12:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.119.85 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:12:49 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.119.85 with HTTP; Fri, 24 Feb 2012 19:12:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <201202242103.47467.irgunII@gmail.com> References: <201202242103.47467.irgunII@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 10:12:49 +0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo for me? From: Pandu Poluan To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307f367292379f04b9c140f3 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - svr-us4.tirtonadi.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.gentoo.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - poluan.info X-Archives-Salt: 78520456-dcb8-465d-ac2e-a776a88a6cfe X-Archives-Hash: 4e7f0c2d40fad5befeab1299ee3ccd02 --20cf307f367292379f04b9c140f3 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Feb 25, 2012 10:06 AM, "John" wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > I've been using linux for about 12 years now, but only used DE's. I've got ADD in the > extreme and have poor memory retention so trying to learn things 'UNIX' (command line and > such) is just too difficult for me. I can do some command line stuff but nothing more than > getting time from someplace to make my clock be correct, heh. > > I've been using SuSE/openSUSE now for all those 12 years but I'm becoming somewhat > disgruntled with the direction I feel it's going (don't ask, it'll just get me started > rantin' and ravin'). I've looked at Slackware, but the package management looks just a > little bit more than I can try to handle at first without getting frustrated and scrubbing > it off my hard drive. > > I've looked at a *LOT* of other distro's and too many use Gnome (I can't stand it, > that's my opinion so don't try to argue with me to change), some are a bit too > minimalistic and others too much like openSUSE is now - huge. > > I finally came upon Gentoo and for the past few days I've been reading and looking at > things and so far it seems to be what I'm wanting to switch to, but here's my quandary: > > I'm dirt-poor and have only a dial-up connection. The Portage package management seems > extremely nice, but will it be a problem for me to upgrade say just one package/app at a > time? Will I be able to find a tarball of an app I want to try out and be able to build it > like I would with rpmbuild (will it be as relatively easy as that)? Is there a > 'repository' of apps anywhere that I can go to to look and see if the app I normally use > for something is there? > > There's probably more questions, but I best keep this short for now, lol. Thanks for any > replies and help with these things and I hope I made enough sense for everyone to > understand what I'm trying to get at. > > JB > Have a look at Sabayon. It's Gentoo-based, but it comes with binary repository (although you can easily use portage if you want). It offers 'out of the box' support for KDE4, xfce, or gnome3. Others are available but you have to compile them yourself (via portage). Rgds, --20cf307f367292379f04b9c140f3 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Feb 25, 2012 10:06 AM, "John" <irgunii@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi folks,
>
> =C2=A0I've been using linux for about 12 years now, but only used = DE's. I've got ADD in the
> extreme and have poor memory retention so trying to learn things '= UNIX' (command line and
> such) is just too difficult for me. I can do some command line stuff b= ut nothing more than
> getting time from someplace to make my clock be correct, heh.
>
> =C2=A0I've been using SuSE/openSUSE now for all those 12 years but= I'm becoming somewhat
> disgruntled with the direction I feel it's going (don't ask, i= t'll just get me started
> rantin' and ravin'). I've looked at Slackware, but the pac= kage management looks just a
> little bit more than I can try to handle at first without getting frus= trated and scrubbing
> it off my hard drive.
>
> =C2=A0I've looked at a *LOT* of other distro's and too many us= e Gnome (I can't stand it,
> that's my opinion so don't try to argue with me to change), so= me are a bit too
> minimalistic and others too much like openSUSE is now - huge.
>
> =C2=A0I finally came upon Gentoo and for the past few days I've be= en reading and looking at
> things and so far it seems to be what I'm wanting to switch to, bu= t here's my quandary:
>
> =C2=A0I'm dirt-poor and have only a dial-up connection. The Portag= e package management seems
> extremely nice, but will it be a problem for me to upgrade say just on= e package/app at a
> time? Will I be able to find a tarball of an app I want to try out and= be able to build it
> like I would with rpmbuild (will it be as relatively easy as that)? Is= there a
> 'repository' of apps anywhere that I can go to to look and see= if the app I normally use
> for something is there?
>
> =C2=A0There's probably more questions, but I best keep this short = for now, lol. Thanks for any
> replies and help with these things and I hope I made enough sense for = everyone to
> understand what I'm trying to get at.
>
> =C2=A0JB
>

Have a look at Sabayon. It's Gentoo-based, but it comes with binary = repository (although you can easily use portage if you want).

It offers 'out of the box' support for KDE4, xfce, or gnome3. Ot= hers are available but you have to compile them yourself (via portage).

Rgds,

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