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From: Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT: Any truth to this mess?
Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2012 19:56:40 +0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA2qdGWNE5WEuX4nWO0n-y0hP1h5m+6J8991D-z6qfx8DHrWVQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
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On Feb 18, 2012 7:27 PM, "Volker Armin Hemmann" <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
wrote:
>
> Am Samstag, 18. Februar 2012, 06:00:00 schrieb Dale:
> > Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > > On Sat, 18 Feb 2012 04:26:02 -0600
> > >
> > > Dale <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> Howdy,
> > >>
> > >> I ran across this and though it was a joke.  Did a news search and
> > >> sure enough, it is reported in lots of places.  Random linky:
> > >>
> > >>
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2102856/Will-FBI-shut-Internet-Ma
> > >> rch-8-virus-concerns.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
> > >>
> > >> Is there any truth to this mess?  My bigger and better question, how
> > >> is shutting down the internet going to fix this?  When the net comes
> > >> back up, they are still going to be infected.  Right?
> > >>
> > >> I'm glad I run a really nice Linux OS.
> > >
> > > Gawd, I hate it when morons write sensational articles that attempt to
> > > make sense to other morons. You get crap like that.
> > >
> > > So if this is legit, and I'm not saying it is, what happened is this:
> > >
> > > The malware changes the DNS cache settings on infected machines,
> > > sending the user to rogue caches. The FBI captured some (or all) of
> > > these rogue caches and (possibly) tried to fix them. A court has now
> > > said those rogue caches must now be shut down.
> > >
> > > So if the morons reading the article do nothing, on March 8 the DNS
> > > caches they use will be down. The user's DNS will not work.
> > >
> > > OMFG!!!!!!! Da intartubes is broken!!!!!
> > >
> > > <sigh>
> > >
> > > Instead, why not just set the DNS caches to something NOT owned by
Ivan
> > > The Russian Spammer?
> > >
> > > And no, the intartubes will NOT be switched off.
> >
> > I don't really think they can unless they just cut power to all the
> > computers.  After all, the internet is supposed to be redundant right?
> > If there is a few computers still running that have a connection, it is
> > still working.  Sort of anyway.
> >
> > Does make one wonder tho.  They have been talking about having a
> > internet "off switch" but I'm not sure it would be that easy.
>
> basically, yes. Take down the core routers and backbones and everything
falls
> apart.
>
> --
> #163933
>

Indeed. In fact, easier than that.

Just inject false BGP routes into one of the backbone level routers, and
see how wide the Internet becomes 'impacted'. Do it to maybe 5 or 6 other
routers that watch guard over the transatlantic and transpacific routes,
and watch as the Internet fold upon itself.

I was once a certified Network Engineer before I became a System Admin, so
I know. The soft underbelly of the Intartubes is depressingly very
vulnerable.

Rgds,

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-02-18 12:58 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 38+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-02-18 10:26 [gentoo-user] Somewhat OT: Any truth to this mess? Dale
2012-02-18 10:44 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-02-18 12:00   ` Dale
2012-02-18 12:24     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-02-18 12:39       ` Dale
2012-02-18 14:40         ` Alan McKinnon
2012-02-18 15:34           ` Dale
2012-02-18 16:18             ` Michael Mol
2012-02-18 17:48               ` Dale
2012-02-18 18:01               ` Pandu Poluan
2012-02-18 18:10                 ` Michael Mol
2012-02-18 19:02                   ` Pandu Poluan
2012-02-18 16:21         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-02-18 16:31           ` Michael Mol
2012-02-18 12:56       ` Pandu Poluan [this message]
2012-02-18 13:18         ` Dale
2012-02-18 13:49           ` Pandu Poluan
2012-02-18 14:38           ` Alan McKinnon
2012-02-19 21:08           ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2012-02-19 21:23             ` Paul Hartman
2012-02-19 22:16               ` Dale
2012-02-20 16:12             ` Todd Goodman
2012-02-20 20:49               ` Grant Edwards
2012-02-20 21:04                 ` Michael Mol
2012-02-20 21:16                   ` Mark Knecht
2012-02-20 21:24                     ` Michael Mol
2012-02-20 21:52                   ` Grant Edwards
2012-02-21  5:30                   ` Paul Hartman
2012-02-18 14:30       ` [gentoo-user] " pk
2012-02-21  3:58         ` Walter Dnes
2012-02-18 14:36     ` Alan McKinnon
2012-02-18 18:11       ` Pandu Poluan
2012-02-18 18:24         ` Michael Mol
2012-02-18 19:10           ` Pandu Poluan
2012-02-18 16:35 ` Mike Edenfield
2012-02-19 21:14   ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2012-02-19 23:29     ` wdk@moriah
2012-02-20 16:37       ` Todd Goodman

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