From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1R97P1-0000wr-1a for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 03:35:15 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7280021C1C4; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 03:35:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from svr-us4.tirtonadi.com (unknown [69.65.43.212]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19D0D21C028 for ; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 03:34:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-fx0-f53.google.com ([209.85.161.53]) by svr-us4.tirtonadi.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1R97Nz-003lX0-2m for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:34:11 +0700 Received: by fxh2 with SMTP id 2so1541679fxh.40 for ; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 20:34:06 -0700 (PDT) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.223.30.153 with SMTP id u25mr15597368fac.104.1317267246871; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 20:34:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.74.196 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 20:34:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.223.74.196 with HTTP; Wed, 28 Sep 2011 20:34:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <4E83DC99.8020903@gmail.com> References: <4E835F61.30207@nileshgr.com> <4E83AADA.8040905@gmail.com> <4E83C60A.8000905@nileshgr.com> <4E83C9F4.9050501@nileshgr.com> <4E83DC99.8020903@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2011 10:34:06 +0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Motherboard support? From: Pandu Poluan To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0ce0094652f31f04ae0c2e64 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - svr-us4.tirtonadi.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.gentoo.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - poluan.info X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: f4baab7955bc8075cb8c27b0991fa5b8 --000e0ce0094652f31f04ae0c2e64 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sep 29, 2011 9:51 AM, "Dale" wrote: > > Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: >> >> On Thu 29 Sep 2011 06:42:42 AM IST, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote: >>> >>> >>> That's debian HCL, what about Gentoo? We compile the kernel ourselves man. >>> It would be better if we don't use debian/Ubuntu HCL to decide HW for >>> other distros, they're most popular ones and have lot of support from >>> hardware manufacturers, hence good support for hardware using >>> propreitary drivers which is seldom present in other distros. >>> >> I just checked that HCL: >> http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/Giga-byte/GA-880GM-USB3 >> It seems things are supported since linux-2.6.25, we're now using 3.0.4 >> and above. Should be OK right? >> > > As a general rule, hardware support is in the kernel. It shouldn't matter much whether it is Gentoo, Redhat, Debian or any other distro. It just matters that the kernel supports the hardware. I would imagine that anything listed there as working is supported by Linux with a up to date kernel. It all comes down to the kernel. By the way, the kernel tested against is listed in the top right hand corner if I recall correctly. You seem to have noticed that too. If the mobo is a new design or new chipset, try to get at least that version of kernel. > > If it shows things are working for the mobo you are checking on, it should work fine. I think the 880 chipset has been out a while so it should be really stable by now. I seem to recall it was out when I bought my new setup but was still getting worked on for drivers. > > By the way, it is always somewhat wise to buy things that have been out for a while. If you are building a spare or something to play with, then newer stuff is fine. I say this because some very new hardware may not have all the kinks worked out. Unless you really really need the latest and greatest, pick a slightly older setup. When I picked mine, it was about a year old. That is usually plenty of time to let the drivers stabilize. It can also save you some money too. > > Now to be nosy, how many cores and how much ram you planning to put in this new rig? I have a 4 core 3.2Ghz CPU with 16Gbs of ram. Compared to my older AMD 2500+ with 2Gbs of ram, the new rig is super fast. My old rig was named smoker because at the time it was built, it was smoking. My new rig is named fireball. I guess lightening will be next. After that, someone will just have to bury me. Not much is faster than lightening. lol In particle physics, there are faster-than-light particles called Tachyons :-) Rgds, --000e0ce0094652f31f04ae0c2e64 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sep 29, 2011 9:51 AM, "Dale" <rdalek1967@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:
>>
>> On Thu 29 Sep 2011 06:42:42 AM IST, Nilesh Govindarajan wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> That's debian HCL, what about Gentoo? We compile the kerne= l ourselves man.
>>> It would be better if we don't use debian/Ubuntu HCL to de= cide HW for
>>> other distros, they're most popular ones and have lot of s= upport from
>>> hardware manufacturers, hence good support for hardware using<= br> >>> propreitary drivers which is seldom present in other distros.<= br> >>>
>> I just checked that HCL:
>> htt= p://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/Giga-byte/GA-880GM-USB3
>> It seems things are supported since linux-2.6.25, we're now us= ing 3.0.4
>> and above. Should be OK right?
>>
>
> As a general rule, hardware support is in the kernel. =C2=A0It shouldn= 't matter much whether it is Gentoo, Redhat, Debian or any other distro= . =C2=A0It just matters that the kernel supports the hardware. =C2=A0I woul= d imagine that anything listed there as working is supported by Linux with = a up to date kernel. =C2=A0It all comes down to the kernel. =C2=A0By the wa= y, the kernel tested against is listed in the top right hand corner if I re= call correctly. =C2=A0You seem to have noticed that too. =C2=A0If the mobo = is a new design or new chipset, try to get at least that version of kernel.=
>
> If it shows things are working for the mobo you are checking on, it sh= ould work fine. =C2=A0I think the 880 chipset has been out a while so it sh= ould be really stable by now. =C2=A0I seem to recall it was out when I boug= ht my new setup but was still getting worked on for drivers.
>
> By the way, it is always somewhat wise to buy things that have been ou= t for a while. =C2=A0If you are building a spare or something to play with,= then newer stuff is fine. =C2=A0I say this because some very new hardware = may not have all the kinks worked out. =C2=A0Unless you really really need = the latest and greatest, pick a slightly older setup. =C2=A0When I picked m= ine, it was about a year old. =C2=A0That is usually plenty of time to let t= he drivers stabilize. =C2=A0It can also save you some money too.
>
> Now to be nosy, how many cores and how much ram you planning to put in= this new rig? =C2=A0I have a 4 core 3.2Ghz CPU with 16Gbs of ram. =C2=A0Co= mpared to my older AMD 2500+ with 2Gbs of ram, the new rig is super fast. = =C2=A0My old rig was named smoker because at the time it was built, it was = smoking. =C2=A0My new rig is named fireball. =C2=A0I guess lightening will = be next. =C2=A0After that, someone will just have to bury me. =C2=A0Not muc= h is faster than lightening. =C2=A0lol

In particle physics, there are faster-than-light particles called Tachyo= ns :-)

Rgds,

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