<p><br> On Dec 8, 2011 7:21 AM, "Harry Putnam" <<a href="mailto:reader@newsguy.com">reader@newsguy.com</a>> wrote:<br> ><br> > Paul Hartman <<a href="mailto:paul.hartman%2Bgentoo@gmail.com">paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com</a>> writes:<br> ><br> > > On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Harry Putnam <<a href="mailto:reader@newsguy.com">reader@newsguy.com</a>> wrote:<br> > >> This is a brand new install, and I've changed very little. I've done<br> > >> nothing consciously to effect how many jobs are to be run.<br> > ><br> > > In that case I think it is working normally. It won't run more than 1<br> > > job unless you ask it to do so.<br> ><br> > I followed another thread recently about this, and I understood the<br> > new behavior is set this way because emerge will be running more than<br> > 1 job and that would be a mess to put into one terminal... hence the<br> > line showing jobs.<br> ><br> > But if it is not default to run more than 1 job then why is the other<br> > (emerge) default in place, and blocking the normal output of -v?<br> ></p> <p>-v affects only the list of packages being emerged, it no longer has any effect on the build output.</p> <p>> Seems like these defaults should all be on the same page.<br> ><br> > If emerge is not set to run more than 1 job at a time then the<br> > intrusive `--jobs ???? --load ????' baloney should not be in place by<br> > default either. But I'm sure our developers have much better reasons<br> > than I might dream up for doing it this (seemingly confusing) way.<br> ></p> <p>It's not. The default is still "single job" and "no load limiting" but "quietly build things"</p> <p>> I'm not really complaining so much as just a little confused as to<br> > what is the reasoning for this change.<br> ></p> <p>In the -project list, Zac explained his reasons. Some that I can recall:</p> <p>* Computers are way too fast nowadays for us to properly peruse the build output</p> <p>* Gentoo newcomers are more likely to be confused by all those output. (And my corollary: Gentoo oldtimers should be perfectly capable of finding out how to disable quiet build ;-) </p> <p>Rgds,<br> </p>